Lester Kamen - Perspective

.aesthetic talk
The Rebirth of Lester Kamen
Finding Harmony in Chaos

written + interview Chidozie Obasi

Recent years found many artists rejecting “coolness” (a buzzword of the early noughties) for a more introspective approach.

Oxford-based Lester Kamen’s journey of early music pursuits could partially relate to such an example, which has seen him swapping pitches—from the court to the piano—with a somewhat freewheeling vein that’s currently searching its edge.

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“I'm continuously exploring myself because I have feelings of being tangled, and maybe I don't express them well in words as I do with music, which is my comfort zone where I feel like I can thrive.”

Lester Kamen speaks with Chidozie Obasi

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“I'm continuously exploring myself because I have feelings of being tangled, and maybe I don't express them well in words as I do with music, which is my comfort zone where I feel like I can thrive,” opines Kamen. “My mum's been a piano teacher since I was born, so for the whole time I've had a really deep music knowledge in my house. I've also had guitars, but one thing that my mum never did is force me into learning, or taking grades and all that.”

With early stints as a footballer, Kamen later withdrew from this practice as he was diagnosed with blood clots in his leg, meaning he has to take a particular drug that wouldn’t let him play football full time. “I can have a kick about with my friends, however I can't play fully, and when I was younger my whole life was about pursuing this sport—but I used to sing in my own time while playing guitar and piano just as a thing on the side; and after the doctor told me I couldn't play again, such a decision took a toll to me and I needed something where I can pour my heart into. It eventually happened step by step, and I felt like I started to lean on to music as a way of expressing myself because football was my outlet back in the day.”

Weirdly, it’s interesting how newcomers build up their own obstacles to pleasure. It’s exactly the reason why the scale and complexity of the music industry imply that those with the means to deeply understand and acknowledge the meaning of their artistic practice could lead the way on the long haul. Not only by expressing mere passion. Which pretty much epitomises the discernment between an artist and a singer.

“I feel that it's very important to have a body of work before you jump into things too much,” Kamen offers, who’s currently working on his first compendium of songs to present by the start of next year. “Because if one song does extremely well, and people are expecting a lot more but you don't have a body of work, you will find yourself having to press the breaks on everything whilst you have the pressure of writing something.”

Another reason why he’s taking it slowly, working to ensure he gets it right before pouring his songs out and into the wide world. “Well, I gave myself this period of time to create this body of work that once it's out, there'll be enough songs that are not just a few, but that feel like a whole body of work. And I did have to spend some time just not releasing anything and being quiet so that, again, the bigger the body of work, the more it feels like I'm prepared for what this music industry has in store.”

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Will his music be ready for his next act? “As I write more songs, I would like my words to be simpler and simpler in a way that I can say a lot with a little,” he offers. “Maybe I haven't said that, but again, when you're left to your own devices, you can write a song that can convey something in as little words as you want.”

All in all, his songs do not have a theme per se, and upon questioning, Kamen was reluctant to “philosophise” over his music practice, which I thought was a shame. In other words, let the lyricism speak for itself, which these could do plenty if honed rather rigorously.

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“As I write more songs, I would like my words to be simpler and simpler in a way that I can say a lot with a little.”

Lester Kamen speaks with Chidozie Obasi

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.aesthetic talk CAELIAN DEL’MARE *On Identity, Rebellion, & Finding Home

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TEAM CREDITS
seen COSIMO BUCCOLIERI via Studio Repossi
fashion director + stylist CHIDOZIE OBASI
head of production JESSICA LOVATO
fashion coordinator DAVIDE BELOTTI
make up KIM GUTIERREZ via Studio Repossi
hair GAETANO PANE via Julian Watson Agency
talent LESTER KAMEN

photography assistant ANTONIO CROTTI
production assistant ANJA MENEGON
fashion assistants GINEVRA ELISA VITALI + GLORIA MOLTRASIO + VERONICA VAGHI



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Caelian del’Mare - Interview

.aesthetic talk
CAELIAN DEL’MARE
*On Identity, Rebellion, & Finding Home

written + interview Alban E. Smajli

Caelian del’Mare is a force shaped by the vibrant chaos of Kreuzberg, the vivid energy of Istanbul, and the cinematic pull of Los Angeles.

Rooted in his Berlin upbringing, the actor moves through life with an authenticity that feels as raw as the streets he calls home. His work is an exploration of identity, movement, and resilience—layers formed through early experiences that continue to fuel his creativity.
In this exclusive conversation with LE MILE Digital, del’Mare shares how Kreuzberg’s diversity shaped his worldview, how Istanbul’s markets ignited his determination, and how the rhythm of dance connects to the emotional depths of his roles. Whether reflecting on the transformative power of a name or imagining a character yet to be played, del’Mare embodies the energy of someone constantly in motion, constantly evolving.

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“Berlin, Kreuzberg! This is where I was born, where I grew up. These streets taught me life. It’s not just a place; it’s a part of me.”

Caelian del’Mare speaks with Alban E. Smajli
for LE MILE .Digital

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Berlin, Istanbul, Los Angeles—where does Caelian del’Mare feel most at home, or are you constantly searching for something beyond places?

Caelian del’Mare
Berlin, Kreuzberg! This is where I was born, where I grew up. These streets taught me life. It’s not just a place; it’s a part of me. So much love, but also so many contradictions—it’s rough around the edges. Many say that if you’re born here, you never truly leave, no matter where you go, and that’s true. I could move elsewhere, but I want my big breakthrough to come without even realizing it’s happening. I want to show my people that I have what it takes to be the next movie star.

When you step into the skin of a character, how much of Caelian stays outside?

There’s always something of me in every role, maybe just a nuance. My early, often tough experiences sparked my creativity and gave me a unique perspective on characters. As an actor, I am confident and serious but also relaxed enough to approach any role flexibly. My expressions give my performances a certain intensity that often resonates well with people. It feels like I bring parts of myself into every role while transforming into the character.

From short film to feature film—is it just a change in runtime, or does each format demand something entirely different from you as an actor?

Each format has its own rhythm. In a short film, you have to portray the character quickly and precisely, almost like a poem that touches directly. A feature film, on the other hand, gives you more time to unfold the character step by step and take the audience on a deeper journey. For me, that means each format requires a different approach.

You’ve trained in street and urban dance—do you find that rhythm and movement unexpectedly guide you in intense scenes?

Absolutely. Dance gave me a kind of language for rhythm and body movement that goes beyond words. Sometimes, it’s not the dialogue but the movements that bring the moment to life. The rhythm of the body can build tension. This connection to movement often gives me access to the emotions of the character.

Your name, Caelian del’Mare, has an almost mythical quality. Does it influence how people in the industry perceive you or the roles you’re drawn to?

I’m completely at peace with my identity and real name, and I don’t deny it in any way. But my stage name, Caelian del’Mare, represents a creative extension of myself. It allows me to show a different side of me and create something that stands apart from my everyday life. The name was born from my desire for change and hope for something new – it symbolizes a fresh start. It’s entirely possible that I’m perceived differently because of the stage name, as it establishes a distinct creative identity. Still, it remains a part of me, and it’s not about hiding or completely changing who I am but about presenting my art from a new perspective.

What is your creative rebellion? Is there a rule in filmmaking you’d like to break but haven’t had the chance to yet?

There are no rules. I’ve seen a lot in life, more than one might guess from the outside. There were times when I felt lost, unsure of who I truly was or where I belonged. Acting gives me the chance to step into roles that are far removed from the life I was born into. It’s as if I’m living out all the dreams I could never fulfill. I’m not just playing a character – I’m living everything I might never have experienced. Every role I play is a piece of me that I find and lose. It’s a journey that changes me more than I ever thought it would.

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“There’s always something of me in every role, maybe just a nuance. It feels like I bring parts of myself into every role while transforming into the character.”

Caelian del’Mare speaks with Alban E. Smajli
for LE MILE .Digital

Was there ever a costume or look for a character on set that felt so close to your personal style you wanted to take it home?

Yes, absolutely! Once, I played a character who wore a worn leather jacket and black boots—it reminded me of Marlon Brando, a simple yet authentic look. The jacket felt like it had a story, and it just clicked with me. At the end of the shoot, the costume designer practically had to wrestle it out of my hands.

When you play someone complex, like Umut in Tek Yol, do you lose parts of yourself in the process?

With Umut, I played a very complex character, defined by intense emotions and contradictions. He is aggressive, doesn’t take anything lying down, and is full of energy, but at the same time, he is also emotional and a true charmer – the 36 Boys were my inspiration. From the very first moment, I had a vivid mental picture and genuine thoughts about him.

These thoughts allowed me to experience the character with all his depth and pain. My name comes from a boy who wanted change – that boy was me, Merdan Karatas. I created a new identity to achieve what no one believed in.

Is there a story or character the world hasn’t seen yet that you’re eager to bring to life?

I’d love to play a character struggling with their inner self, someone who sees the world differently and is often misunderstood. Someone who lives for themselves despite all the obstacles in their way. I’m fascinated by how such people think and feel, and I’d love to portray that role as vividly as possible.

What’s next—are there any projects, collaborations, or creative directions you’re looking to explore?

There’s no official new film project at the moment, but plenty of exciting opportunities are on the horizon. A few open castings and collaborations are being discussed, and I’m excited to see where it all leads.

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seen JULIAN MELZER
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“My name comes from a boy who wanted change – that boy was me, Merdan Karatas. I created a new identity to achieve what no one believed in.”

Caelian del’Mare speaks with Alban E. Smajli
for LE MILE .Digital

Jorge López - Interview

.aesthetic talk
JÓRGE LÓPEZ
Hot Pursuit

interview Juan Marti

Madrid’s heat blazes like an open flame, pushing the city to its edge, and in the midst of it, Jórge López appears like a shot of cool relief. Known worldwide as one of Chile’s most electric talents, he’s captivated screens with an intensity that refuses to fade.

Jórge López defies the usual trajectory, choosing a path of substance over spectacle. In an exclusive interview and photoshoot with LE MILE Magazine, he reveals a moment of genuine connection—focused on new roles, personal pursuits, and a vision that’s both dynamic and unapologetically his own.

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“I know it's going to surprise you, now it's my turn to play the villain, an ambiguous man, with intentions that are difficult to understand.”

Jórge López with Juan Marti
first published: LE MILE Magazine, AGE OF CHANGE Nr. 37 Edition, Fall/Winter 2024

team credits

seen ANDREW JIM
styled SERGI PADIAL
producer JUAN MARTÍ
grooming SERGIO ÁLVAREZ
retoucher ISMAEL VILLAR
talent JORGE LOPEZ
production assistant VINI DORE
fashion assistant ANDREA ESTIRADO
artist (painted backdrops) LUCHO CAMPOS

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Juan Marti
What have you been up to these days?

Jórge López
I confess that I don't stop; I haven’t had time to be still since the summer started. I just got back from Mexico a few days ago after finishing a project. Now I’m in Madrid, dying from the heat.

Speaking of the film and your roles, which character have you been focusing on?

I know it’s going to surprise you—it’s my turn to play the villain, an ambiguous man with intentions that are difficult to understand. But it’s been a real gift because I returned to Disney with Tini, the Argentine star. We both return to that place that saw us grow, which has now become a platform for all kinds of audiences and produces a wide range of content. Our project is a real thriller that explores identity and how our environment influences us as we develop as people and individuals, as well as the situations we can get caught up in when we’re unclear about who we are or when we become someone we don’t want to be.

Where do you want to focus right now?

I’m giving myself a period of self-care. I’m trying to break away from the conventional idea of success and the endless work spiral. I love working, and I want to keep working, but I also want to live. I want my life project to be my main focus. In Chile, I’m remodeling my house, and here I just finished renovating my apartment. I want to accomplish personal goals, even jotting down ideas as they come to me. I’m also considering a trip to Angola.

What do you have coming up?

An adventure that, for now, has no end and that I plan to enjoy. I really want to explore that part of Africa and learn its dances, to connect with my body and my side as a dancer. I want to nurture myself, to travel alone. I love traveling solo; it’s an experience that forces you to be self-sufficient and resilient.

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“I'm trying to get away from the conventional concept of success that surrounds us and the endless spiral of work.”

Jórge López with Juan Marti
first published: LE MILE Magazine, AGE OF CHANGE Nr. 37 Edition, Fall/Winter 2024

Omar Rudberg - Interview

.aesthetic talk
OMAR RUDBERG
Northern Star

written + interview Juan Marti

Passion can be a dangerous feeling in the heart of the wrong person. Such an emotion makes us do crazy things but also great deeds.

That has been the case with young singer and actor Omar Rudberg: The Swedish-Venezuelan singer and actor was born with the most radiant passion running through his veins and from minute one it was clear to him.

His desire to express himself through music dominated his world and in early childhood he started working hard on his musical technique. Making the audience dance, feel and enjoy with his voice was his light bulb in an adolescence where we all wondered who we wanted to be and where we wanted to go. Omar's talent eliminated any kind of doubt and from the beginning of his solo career, through the years as a member of the boy band FO&O, Omar has shined with his own light. Becoming one of the most recognized voices and faces in Sweden thanks to starring in the Netflix hit show Young Royals, Omar lives an artistic moment of maturity and reinvention, where he feels free and powerful to unleash his most honest passions. A well-deserved feat, then, for a promising star.

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“You gotta take risks and throw yourself out there, because if you don’t, you’ll never find out what could’ve happened if you did.”

Omar Rudberg with Juan Marti
first published: LE MILE Magazine, AGE OF CHANGE Nr. 37 Edition, Fall/Winter 2024

team credits

seen NICOLA PAGANO
creative fashion director CHIDOZIE OBASI
fashion editor DENNIS CAPPABIANCA
head of production JESSICA LOVATO
contributing editor LEONARDO MARTINO
talent OMAR RUDBERG via NEXT MANAGEMENT

make up MATTIA ANDREOLI
hair DOMENICO PAPA
video editor ALEXANDRE JOUX
set designer ALESSIA SORESSI

fashion coordinator LEONARDO VANTAGGI
fashion assistants LAURA GIROLAMI, JULIA ANTONIN, NICOLÒ PIOMBINO, IRENE MOTTO-ROS
production assistant ANJA MENEGON

LE MILE Magazine’s 37th issue, AGE OF CHANGE, is sold out in print but still available as a Digital Download.

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Omar, it is a pleasure to talk to you. I would like to start talking about changes. This year has been very important for you and I would like to know how you face the new chapters in your life. What feelings do moments of change awaken in you?

Omar Rudberg
This year is one of the most exciting and important years of my career. I really get to release my new music for the international market and it’s very exciting. I don’t know what’s going to happen next—that’s what I love about what I do, even though it’s sometimes scary.

Do you consider yourself someone who is not afraid of risks or are you a more cautious person who prefers to think twice?

That really depends on my mood. Sometimes I wake up and I’ll think multiple times to do things right, and sometimes I don’t. I’ve learned from taking risks and I’ve gained from them. I would never be where I am today if I hadn’t taken the risks I’ve taken in my life.

When it comes to making an important decision, do you prefer to go it alone or do you like to seek advice from someone you trust?

I definitely seek advice from my real ones. I trust the ones that are close to me, and I know they’ll always tell me their honest opinions. Seeking advice is never a bad thing. And sometimes it can even change the way you see things and suddenly, everything is so much more clear.

Musically, 2024 has meant your expansion as a singer to a much wider audience. Have you felt pressure or nerves when facing this new challenge?

I think that I’m my worst enemy when it comes to pressure. I put a lot of pressure on myself sometimes and that has been something that I’ve had to work on.

I like that one of the first singles of this new stage is Bye Bye. It is clear that you are saying goodbye to a stage, but beyond that, what other things are you saying goodbye to with that song?

Actually, the first single of this new era was Red Light. But yeah, I’m basically saying Bye Bye to bad habits, bad relations and bad energy. I feel free and I’m doing what I love and what I want to do and nothing or no one will stop me!

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“I would never be where I am today if I hadn’t taken the risks I’ve taken in my life.”

Omar Rudberg with Juan Marti
first published: LE MILE Magazine, AGE OF CHANGE Nr. 37 Edition, Fall/Winter 2024

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.aesthetic talk Nemo *Fame, Freedom, and the Art of Doing Nothing

Last February was your first solo concert. You did it in Stockholm in front of thousands and thousands of people. How did you experience that concert? Do you have any special memories?

That day was one of the most amazing days of my life. I felt so much joy, love and energy. I still can’t believe to this day that it all happened. I’m so thankful for every single human being that came to the show. It was an honor to be able to give them a bomb ass show!

Sweden is the country where you grew up but you were born in Venezuela, how do you keep your roots alive with this beautiful country?

My roots are just in me. I’ve always seen myself as a Venezolano. My mom and my family are number one to me. I eat Venezuelan/Latin American food everyday, listen to the music everyday, and I speak my Venezuelan Spanish everyday. I can’t wait to go back and visit my home country. Venezuela Libre. ¡Hasta el final!

As a big fan of crime novels that I am and you being from Stockholm I would like to ask you if you are also a fan of that genre that is so acclaimed in Sweden, any recommendations?

If you like crime tv shows, then I’d see Snabba Cash on Netflix. It’s not a novel but it’s a really good Swedish show.

I have to congratulate you because I really liked your debut in Karusell, I'm a big slasher fan. How did you prepare for the role, are you a fan of horror movies?

Thank you! I do like horror movies. For me it’s a fun experience watching a horror movie with friends or family. Since Karusell only was my second project to film, it was important for me to feel like I was playing a new character far from Simon in Young Royals. Dante is pretty much the opposite of what Simon was so it was kind of easy for me to find who Dante was.

Karusell confronts its protagonists with the pending accounts of what happened in their adolescence, what were you like when you were in high school?

I never went to high school. I was busy touring Scandinavia and the US with my band at the time. In school I was a loud and crazy kid with my friends. But I was also very shy and insecure at times.

This year the Netflix series you starred in, Young Royals, one of their biggest hits came to an end. What lessons have you been able to learn from that incredible experience?

You gotta take risks and throw yourself out there, because if you don’t, you’ll never find out what could’ve happened if you did. I’m glad I did—even if it meant skipping mathematics in high school.

I'm sure the years you spent filming Young Royals were incredible, can you tell me about any moments you hold dear to your heart?

The whole casting process to me is something I’ll always remember. It was a very weird and special time in my life before the casting started. But when Young Royals came into my life it changed me.

I would like to end the interview talking about new beginnings, what can we expect from the new…

You can expect a lot of great new music and live shows!! Because I’m releasing new music very soon and I’m going on tour! Also, 2025 is going to be NEXT level.

“I don’t know what’s going to happen next—that’s what I love about what I do, even though it’s sometimes scary.”

Omar Rudberg with Juan Marti
first published: LE MILE Magazine, AGE OF CHANGE Nr. 37 Edition, Fall/Winter 2024

NEMO - Interview

.aesthetic talk
Nemo
Fame, Freedom, and the Art of Doing Nothing

written + interview Alban E. Smajli

Nemo’s world is a delicate line—fame on one side, fierce privacy on the other. Talking with LE MILE, Nemo is clear: silence is as essential as sound.

Fresh off the Eurovision win, Nemo is headed somewhere quieter, carving space for nothingness in Aix-en-Provence, where everything else can fall away. Nemo creates music as a universe—crafting worlds, experimenting with genre, and aligning their art with their wardrobe, where every stitch resonates with sound. Privacy, once blurred in the rush of recognition, is now an obsession.
In the spaces between spotlight and solitude, Nemo finds the balance—where the loud meets the quiet, where raw edges mix with crafted lines. Their art? Pure and boundless, spilling over into fashion, music, and a life that answers only to their own rhythm.

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“I think I'm learning to do nothing in my downtime. I’m going to Aix-en-Provence in France, and my plan is to do absolutely nothing. If this works out, then I would say that what gets stripped away when the lights fade is, ideally, everything.”

Nemo speaks with Alban E. Smajli
for LE MILE .Digital

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How do you balance the rawness of your personal life with the glossy, sometimes artificial world of fame? What gets stripped away when the lights fade?

Nemo
I think I'm learning to do nothing in my downtime. I worked through my first vacation after, like, five months of working full-time every day. I’m going to Aix-en-Provence in France, and my plan is to do absolutely nothing. If this works out, then I would say that what gets stripped away when the lights fade is, ideally, everything. I work in cycles of full awareness, being fully present when working and giving it my all, then having days where I do nothing at all. I think that's a balance. I mean, I crave to create.

Your style is a statement on its own. How do fashion and your art collide? Is your wardrobe a mirror or a mask for the world to interpret?

I think my wardrobe aims to reflect my music in the best possible way. So, in that sense, it’s a mirror of my music, my art. It’s either a mirror or an extension of it, sometimes both. That’s what I strive for, from stage to street.

Where does your artistic identity end and your private self begin? Or is the concept of privacy already extinct in your universe?

No, privacy is really important to me. I’m realizing this as I become more exposed, both as a person and as a public figure. Through this, I’ve come to see how essential privacy is. I didn’t understand this at the start, as my public and private lives were intertwined—everyone in my public life was also part of my private life. But as I became more recognized, especially to the degree that happened this year, I began craving privacy, moments for myself and with friends, away from the public eye. I value being with people who don’t overanalyze or categorize everything I do. So yes, privacy has become very important to me.

Does the music industry’s obsession with genre labels suffocate creativity? How do you intend to break those constraints with your next moves?

I always aim to create something fresh, something that opens a door not many have stepped through—or maybe even one no one has. In a world where almost every sound has been explored, new genres rarely arise, so mixing elements—genres, moods, contrasts—is how something entirely new can emerge. The more daring you are with mixing, the more likely you are to hit those moments. That’s my goal in music, and I think it's there in many of the new songs I’m working on. This explosion of constraints. I might put that in my bio: 'I’m an exploder of constraints.'

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talent NEMO
seen JULIAN MELZER
styled KLAAS HAMMER
hair + make up LEO STERN
photo assistant YEONGHYEON KANG
fashion assistant KATHARINA PITTACK
production LIAM MONOT

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“Privacy is really important to me. I’m realizing this as I become more exposed, both as a person and as a public figure. [...] I value being with people who don’t overanalyze or categorize everything I do.”

Nemo speaks with Alban E. Smajli
for LE MILE .Digital

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.aesthetic talk JOEL SÁNCHEZ *Breaking New Ground

Are you craving a deeper integration between music and the fashion world in your future?

Definitely. I’ve been working closely with many designers recently and learning so much about fashion, especially in the UK. I’ve met some wonderful people, and I feel the urge to expand my vision through fashion. It’s a powerful way to express myself, alongside music, singing, and writing. Integrating fashion more closely feels essential. The experience over the last few months has been eye-opening, and I look forward to more collaborations, launching my own line, and possibly participating in Fashion Weeks. These are things I’d truly enjoy.

Your lyrics seem to hold the weight of entire worlds. What's the one theme you keep circling back to, even when you try to escape it?

A general theme in my music has been freedom—finding freedom in yourself and defining it personally. That’s at the core, and even when it’s not directly in the lyrics, it’s in the sounds I choose, the worlds I create, and the feel of my music. So, I’d say that’s the recurring theme.

The Eurovision crown is still yours. What’s next? What keeps you awake at night now that you’ve tasted this level of success?

I’ve learned a lot over the past half year. The main thing is that I love creating without limits and collaborating with musicians I admire. Recently, I’ve been working with people I hadn’t had the chance to work with before, and it’s opened a new world for me, pushing me beyond my comfort zone. That’s a feeling I love. My aim is to make music, release albums, play concerts for the rest of my life, and create work that deeply resonates with me and challenges the conventional views of music and art, as well as myself. Those are my goals.

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“The experience over the last few months has been eye-opening, and I look forward to more collaborations, launching my own line, and possibly participating in Fashion Weeks. These are things I’d truly enjoy.”

Nemo speaks with Alban E. Smajli
for LE MILE .Digital

Joel Sánchez - Interview

.aesthetic talk
JOEL SÁNCHEZ
Breaking New Ground

written Juan Marti

Sometimes it's all down to fate. It happens when the stars conspire like the witches of Mcbeth and without expecting it, someone appears who makes a great impact, a person with something special.

LE MILE Magazine, AGE OF CHANGE Nr. 37
Fall/Winter 2024-25

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“It allows you to live a thousand lives and makes your own life more complete because it makes you look into your psychology and above all into people's.”

Joel Sanchez speaks with Juan Marti
first published: LE MILE Magazine - AGE OF CHANGE, Issue Nr. 37

That thing is difficult to explain but it's what makes you can't take your eyes off them, that makes you interested in the way they dress, the way they talk, even the way they smoke. Joel Sánchez is one such example: he has that thing that dazzles before the cameras and he has been able to prove it with only one TV series behind him.

His character in the successful spin off of Money Heast, Berlin, made millions of people fall in love with him all over the world thanks to his mischievousness, attractiveness and comedy. Critics and audiences have deemed him as the show's "breakout star", and for good reason. The entertainment and fashion industries have surrendered to Joel as he deals with maturity and professionalism the wave of fame that has burst into his life. But the actor, with a splendid future ahead of him, maintains his relaxed attitude and tries to savor every second of the magnificent gift that life has given him: making his dream come true.

total look ALEXANDER MCQUEEN

vest PAUL SMITH
pleated trousers SETCHU
trousers CHB CHRISTIAN BOARO
shoes SEBAGO
earrings VOODOO JEWELS

Juan Marti
Joel, time goes by so fast! It's been almost six months since the premiere of Berlin, the spin-off of Money Heist, which was a huge success. Looking back, what do you feel when you think about the months in which the series came out?

Joel Sánchez
Well, I feel very happy because it was something new for me, and to be able to see how people embrace the project and your character is something very nice and something I had never experienced before.

Berlin was also your first job as an actor, a profession that has always been your great passion. Do you believe that dreams come true?

It is a profession that always generated a lot of curiosity in me, but honestly until I did not work in it I did not realize what a beautiful job it is, it allows you to live a thousand lives and makes your own life more complete because it makes you look into your psychology and above all into people's. I feel very lucky to have found this beautiful profession. I feel very lucky to have found this beautiful way of making a living.

In less than a year your life has changed completely. I'm sure there are times when big changes can be overwhelming. Have you ever felt overwhelmed by everything that has happened?

The truth is that no, as I said before it has been a very nice process, I really enjoy the messages I read and things like that. Obviously there will be moments and moments as with all things, but at the moment I am savoring it.

Is it easy to keep your feet on the ground when success comes so unexpectedly?

For me that lies in the education and values that each one has.

During this year, what is the most important lesson you have learned?

The most important lesson for me that I have learned is that you have to be "calm" when things go well and when things go wrong, because everything is over, everything is temporary.

trousers VERSACE
necklace SWAROVSKI

team credits

seen NICOLA PAGANO
creative fashion director and stylist CHIDOZIE OBASI
head of production JESSICA LOVATO
contributing editor LEONARDO MARTINO
talent JOEL SANCHEZ via NEXT Management @nextmilan

makeup MATTIA ANDREOLI
hair stylist DOMENICO PAPA
video editor ALEXANDRE JOUX
set designer ALESSIA SORESSI
fashion coordinator assistant LEONARDO VANTAGGI

fashion assistants LAURA GIROLAMI, JULIA ANTONIN, NICOLÒ PIOMBINO, IRENE MOTTO-ROS
production assistant ANJA MENEGON

“You have to be 'calm' when things go well and when things go wrong, because everything is over, everything is temporary.”

Joel Sanchez speaks with Juan Marti
first published: LE MILE Magazine - AGE OF CHANGE, Issue Nr. 37

shirt DURAZZI
pull FERRAGAMO
shorts THE FRANKIE SHOP
trousers ZEGNA
tie CARLO PIGNATELLI

shirt DSQUARED2
blazer OCTOBRE EDITION
jeans LOIS JEANS
shoes SEBAGO

micro-striped shirt BALLANTYNE
maxi collar shirt SANDRO
orange shirt FENDI
pants DIESEL
shoes PAUL SMITH

You will soon premiere La Favorita 1922, a big production about a restaurant in Madrid in the 1920's. What exactly interested you in this project?

Well, I was interested because it is my second project and I want to work and work and work, but above all I was curious to be able to play a period character, the clothes, the way of seeing and enjoying the life of that era.

You now live in Madrid but I know you are very attached to your homeland, the Canary Islands. What do you do when you feel homesick?

I start watching videos that I have in my favorites of moments with my family and friends in Lanzarote and I get over the nonsense (laughs).

Starting your life in a big city is always hard and you live moments that you never forget. How do you remember your first years in Madrid?

My mother is from Madrid so for me the change was not so radical, besides that I consider myself a very open person and always eager to meet new people so the adaptation was quite easy.

Now that you have immersed yourself in a project set in the last century, I would like to talk about nostalgia. Are you a person who usually remembers the past?

I tend to remember the past as long as it does not affect the future I want to project. It is true that for this work you have to resort to past things to empathize with things of your character etc. But I always try to do it in a healthy way and not to stir up old traumas.

What advice would you give Joel from ten years ago, and how would he feel if he saw all that you are achieving?

To enjoy life because 80% of the problems happen only in our head. That it is good to worry about the future but not to live in it.

I am happy because it has not been an easy road, at the end you make a decision without knowing the consequences and once you have seen them and see that it was worth it, it is a very nice sensation.

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Gregory Crewdson at Espace Louis Vuitton *Dreamscapes of a Haunted America

coat OUR LEGACY
shirt LEVI’S
skirt DURAZZI MILANO
trousers DOLCE & GABBANA

polo CALVIN KLEIN JEANS
shirt Plissè ISSEY MIYAKE
jeans THE ATTICO

If you could choose a past era to live in, what would it be?

I would say the 70's or 80's, in those years for me life was more real, without social networks, without anything that could distract you from being here and now.

How did you feel when you first entered the beautifully constructed sets of La Favorita 1922?

As if coming out of a time machine, the truth is that the sets are a real blast.

Your character is a waiter trying to find a better life, in what way did you connect with your character? Do you always seek to identify in a certain way with the characters you have played so far?

In a way, I also worked as a waiter and other things to pay my college tuition, so I empathize with my character, I think you always have to look for something of yourself in the character to empathize with his life, but I also think that throughout your career as an actor you will get characters that make you learn and delve into areas that you had never considered within yourself and that's nice.

blazer TOM FORD
trousers LOUIS VUITTON

“At the moment, I am savoring it.”

Joel Sanchez speaks with Juan Marti
first published: LE MILE Magazine - AGE OF CHANGE, Issue Nr. 37

Gregory Crewdson at Espace Louis Vuitton Munich, Cathedral of the Pines

Gregory Crewdson at Espace Louis Vuitton
*Dreamscapes of a Haunted America

written Monica de Luna

Gregory Crewdson’s photographs are a punch to the gut, and the latest exhibit at Espace Louis Vuitton München doesn’t hold back.

As part of the Fondation Louis Vuitton’s bold Hors-les-murs program, Crewdson’s series Dream House (2002) and Cathedral of the Pines (2014) are unleashed upon the Munich audience, exposing the fractures beneath the pristine surface of middle-class America. The exhibition pulls you into a world where the familiar dissolves into the surreal, where dreams blur into nightmares, and where small-town life becomes a stage for unsettling cinematic narratives.

(c) Gregory Crewdson, Cathedral of the Pines
at Espace Louis Vuitton Munich

(c) Gregory Crewdson, Cathedral of the Pines
at Espace Louis Vuitton Munich

Crewdson doesn’t just photograph—he directs. His large-scale works, meticulously staged like movie stills, turn ordinary scenes into eerie tableaus. The deserted streets, the muted lighting, the frozen moments—they all draw from the visual lexicon of film noir and psychological thrillers, leaving you hanging in the quiet dread of what might come next. The characters are caught in the eye of a storm you can’t see, their stillness heavy with a tension that won’t break.

This latest showcase at Espace Louis Vuitton Munich goes deeper into that dissonance. Dream House is a series that pulls back the curtains on domestic spaces, revealing the lurking darkness that fills the cracks of suburban life. Crewdson’s use of twilight and nighttime settings floods each photograph with the same unease you get from waking up in a dream you can’t shake. Cathedral of the Pines, on the other hand, feels more intimate, more introspective. Shot in the forests of rural Massachusetts, these images are quieter, more meditative—yet no less haunting. You feel the weight of isolation, of lives lived on the fringes, of nature encroaching on the fragile constructs of human existence.

What sets Gregory Crewdson apart is the way he plays with time. In his world, nothing moves. There’s no before, no after—just the moment. This cinematic suspension freezes the characters and the viewer, locking you in an unresolved narrative. That sense of unsettling calm, of a story half-told, is why his work lingers long after you’ve left the gallery. Every photograph is a secret waiting to be uncovered, but Crewdson isn’t offering answers. He’s here for the mystery!

In Cathedral of the Pines, the mystery becomes more personal. The forested backdrop and the desolate interiors of small-town homes mirror Crewdson’s own journey—of dislocation, personal reflection, and a return to the woods of his youth. This series marks a shift, a softer but more emotionally charged tone that contrasts the colder precision of Dream House. Here, the silence is almost deafening, but it’s the kind that invites you to listen closely—to the rustling leaves, the creaking floorboards, and the whisper of unsaid thoughts.

(c) Gregory Crewdson, Dream House
at Espace Louis Vuitton Munich

There’s no escaping the comparison to David Lynch. Like Lynch, Crewdson captures the dark underbelly of the American dream. Both artists are fascinated with what lies beneath the surface of manicured lawns and polite smiles. In Crewdson’s world, the perfect façade is just that—a cover for something far more disturbing. It’s no accident that his images feel like stills from a movie that could sit comfortably between Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks. The suburban dread, the unease in the everyday—Crewdson’s lens finds the uncanny in what most would overlook.

And yet, despite the cinematic scale of his work, there’s something deeply personal about Crewdson’s exploration of these themes. Whether through the stark portrayal of loneliness in Cathedral of the Pines or the visual claustrophobia of Dream House, there’s a sense that Crewdson is constantly searching for a way out—of both the frame and himself.

His images require you to stop, stare, and confront the unease that rises from the edges of the frame. They are moments from a story you’ll never fully understand, but one you won’t be able to forget.

(c) Gregory Crewdson
Espace Louis Vuitton Munich, 2024

(c) Gregory Crewdson, Dream House
at Espace Louis Vuitton Munich

HARRI - Interview

.aesthetic talk
HARRI
From Inflatable Fantasy to Everyday Edge

written Gennaro Costanzo

As Fashion Week nears, designer Harri KS, famous for his avant-garde inflatable pieces, is taking a fresh turn. This season, he's blending his artistic vision with a more wearable, everyday style — without losing the edge that made him a standout in the fashion world.

It’s September — the time of year when the world begins to embrace autumn. But for fashion lovers, it signals something even more exciting: Fashion Week is just around the corner. Designers like Harri KS are busy wrapping up their collections, adding the final touches that will soon grace runways. When I met Harri, it was no surprise to find him in his London studio, diligently putting the finishing touches on his newest collection. At just 30, this Indian designer has already made waves, from the British Fashion Council to fashion insiders, thanks to his signature bold, inflatable garments. But now, Harri is turning the page, ready to embrace something new. As he explains, his latest collection isn’t just about pushing the boundaries of fashion anymore — it’s about merging his artistic vision with something more wearable, while still keeping that unmistakable edge that made him stand out in the first place.

“The material tells me what to do. I listen to it. I don’t see colour like everyone else. My world is defined by light, shadow, and form.”

Harri speaks with Gennaro Costanzo
LE MILE .Digital Special

Harri’s journey into the fashion world is as unique as the designs he creates. Born and raised in Kerala, a lush, scenic state in southern India, Harikrishnan Keezhathil Surendran Pillai (or just “Harri” to his friends and fans) grew up far removed from the fast-paced fashion capitals of the world. In Kerala, people typically find themselves drawn to steady, stable careers, much like his father, who worked in the public sector. “My dad wanted me to follow that path because he values security,” Harri shared. For a long time, it seemed like he was on that track too — a future in banking or public service seemed almost inevitable.

But something inside Harri was pulling him in a different direction. “After the 10th grade, I realised I didn’t fit in. I needed to create my own life and take charge of it,” he says, reflecting on a time when he made the bold decision to pursue modelling. It wasn’t an easy choice. Leaving Kerala for a bigger city — much like how young designers leave for Milan — was necessary to chase his dream. It was a move that would change everything.

Harri’s path wasn’t linear. After enrolling in a design institute, he quickly found out that his career in fashion would be more of a winding road than a straight shot. His time as a model and bodybuilder weren’t just career choices; they were part of his process of self-discovery. “I started modelling, but after six or seven months, I knew it wasn’t for me,” he recalls. While the role gave him a behind-the-scenes look at the fashion industry, it wasn’t fulfilling. Bodybuilding, on the other hand, became a deeply personal outlet. It was a place where he could reflect and recharge. “The gym was my time to speak to myself,” Harri says, adding that bodybuilding wasn’t just about physical transformation. It mirrored his design process. “In both, there’s discipline and focus. Whether I’m shaping my body or working with fabric, it’s about planning, thinking, and breathing through it.”

team credits

Photographer @inkan___
Production @dktalkies
Movement Director @5eirian
Movement Artists @5eirian / @berendamico / @zacktidswell / @airajadi
PR @inderatamara
Photo Editor @stefanogiovannigiuliano
Assistant @binusabu
Equipments @jerinjosephphotos
Logistics ARUN

Special Credit @rkimaging

“We did artsy before, but this collection is more fashion, more clothing. I want my work to be accessible, but still true to who I am.”

Harri speaks with Gennaro Costanzo
LE MILE .Digital Special

Harri’s big break came when he introduced the world to his inflatable trousers, a daring and playful design that caught everyone’s attention. These bold pieces weren’t just about making a statement. “For me, it was about the process,” he says. The trousers, which quickly became his signature, represented his own evolution — a blend of artistry and craftsmanship. They caught the eye of artists and performers, including Sam Smith, who famously wore Harri’s black latex suit at the Brit Awards in 2023. The look went viral, solidifying Harri as a creative force in popular culture.

When it comes to his work, Harri’s approach is deeply rooted in the materials he uses. “The material tells me what to do. I listen to it,” he says, explaining how his colour blindness has shaped his design choices. “I don’t see colour like everyone else. My world is defined by light, shadow, and form.” This unique perspective has heightened his sensitivity to texture and shape, which is clear in his work. His designs often play with bold, surreal forms while keeping the colour palette understated. “I have rolls of grey and olive green in the studio. They’re labeled, but to me, they look the same,” he laughs, adding that this limitation forces him to rely on other creative instincts.

Now, as he prepares for London Fashion Week, Harri is stepping into new territory. His upcoming collection marks a shift away from the purely artistic pieces he’s known for. “We did artsy before, but this collection is more fashion, more clothing,” he says. It’s a move toward something more practical, but still infused with his signature creativity. Harri wants to create pieces that people can actually wear while staying true to his bold, innovative spirit. “I want my work to be accessible, but still true to who I am,” he adds.

This collection represents more than just a new season for Harri; it’s part of his ongoing exploration of what fashion can be. He’s open about the financial realities that come with balancing creativity and commercial success. “We’re experimenting, trying to figure out what’s next. If it’s not financially viable, we’ll have to reconsider, but for now, we’re pushing forward,” he admits.

As Harri looks back on his journey, it’s clear that his work is more than just clothing. It’s a reflection of his life, his challenges, and his growth. “Each season, we experiment and gain clarity about what’s next,” he says. His designs don’t just push boundaries — they tell a story. A story about a young man from Kerala who dared to step off the beaten path and carve out a space for himself in the world of fashion.

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Dorothy Rice *New Look Model & Painter

Harri’s work goes beyond fashion and art. It’s about making a connection, leaving a lasting impact on both a personal and cultural level. “I want my work to resonate, to mean something,” he says. And with every bold design, Harri KS continues to do just that — challenging norms, sparking conversations, and inspiring those who follow his journey.

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Clara Galle - Interview

.aesthetic talk
Clara Galle
*Truth in Art

interview + written Alban E. Smajli

In Clara Galle's dazzling realm, the fusion of genuine emotion with artistic excellence sparks performances that captivate and strike a chord.

Clara, renowned for her authentic portrayal, masters the intricate dance of human emotions with unparalleled depth. Her diverse roles across genres showcase a dedication to capturing the true spirit of her characters, supported by a distinctive combination of athletic discipline and the instinctive fluidity of her performance style. Whether it's through carefully crafted character playlists or engaging in the collective endeavor of storytelling, Clara's method stands as a tribute to the impact of sincere engagement. As a protector of human stories, Clara Galle's body of work invites us to engage with narratives that resonate with honesty and deep understanding. Elevating beyond mere acting, she emerges as a storyteller in an arena seeking truth. Her empathetic journey into the human condition marks her as a transformative presence, reshaping the narrative landscape with her steadfast devotion to genuine storytelling.

Clara wears
dress PALOMO Y BIMBA & LOLA
shoes FERRAGAMO
jewelry TOUS

full look VERSACE
garter belt BIMBA BLUME
jewelry TOUS

“What I always look for, and what is essential for me, is to tell the truth. That's the focus I bring to my characters... If I find myself blocked in a scene, I tell myself, 'Just tell the truth,' and I think that's what makes a character come through.”

Clara Galle speaks with Alban E. Smajli
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

Alban E. Smajli
Your performances are often described as captivating and immersive. Can you share with us how you prepare to embody a character and create such a deep connection with your audience?
Clara Galle
What I always look for, and what is essential for me, is to tell the truth. That's the focus I bring to my characters. Obviously, I build their personality, the way they talk, how they walk, but in the end, when I'm on set, the most important thing is that those characters somehow move, and you're not going to move if you're not looking for the truth. That's why, for me, everything else comes in second place, even though I work a lot on each aspect and build it from scratch. If I find myself blocked in a scene, I tell myself, "Just tell the truth," and I think that's what makes a character come through.

Trance can be interpreted as a state of intense focus and immersion. Have you ever found yourself so engrossed in a character that it felt like entering a trance-like state? If so, what was that experience like for you?
I can easily differentiate when I am in character and when I am not. I know how to get out of it, but it is also true that, since you give yourself completely to the character, to the scene, and to the sequence you are working on, even when you know that you are no longer in character, the body is still there somehow. You have forced it to feel something in particular, be it sadness, happiness, or any other emotion, so, somehow, you trick your body. It has happened to me that I have gone home sometimes with the feeling that I have worked with, although mentally, I know I'm not there.

Throughout your career, you've taken on a variety of roles across different genres. Is there a particular genre or type of character that you find yourself drawn to, where you feel most in tune with your own artistic expression?
I haven't been in this career for very long, but it's true that I've had the opportunity to work in different genres, and I'd like to explore all of them in the future. I'm a curious person and would like to try action, horror, romance, or science fiction. But what I feel more in line with my artistic sensibility, more than the genre, is the everyday scenario. A sequence that does not need many elements, but several people, or even one person, talking and expressing the deepest yet simplest aspects of human beings. I feel that in those simple things, I recognize myself the most and can dig the deepest artistically. But there is also another part of me, the impulsive, restless, and sporty part (since I come from the sports world), which is very much drawn to action. When I move and use a kind of energy that comes from another place, I feel that I generate an artistically different Clara, and I love that too.

As an actor, you have the unique ability to transport audiences into different worlds and experiences. How do you approach the challenge of balancing the authenticity of a character's emotions with the demands of storytelling?
What is important for me, when telling the story and at the same time being faithful to the character and the expression, is to trust the script, the director, the rest of the cast, and the team. It may seem that creating a character is an individual task, but when the character comes to me, it has already gone through a screenwriter and a director. Although you are the one who delves into the depths of the character, it is a collaborative effort. Cinema cannot be individualistic; quite the opposite. The purpose of cinema is collective, so the creation process cannot be individualistic either. It requires both an individual and a group effort.

Trance music often serves as a catalyst for introspection and self-discovery. Have you ever used music or soundscapes to enhance your preparation for a role or to deepen your understanding of a character's psyche?
Music is a tool I use extensively for my characters, to work on them, even for casting. All my characters have had a playlist with songs they would probably listen to, songs that remind me of a scene or describe a character's emotion. In the end, what is rational, what can be said in words, is limited, and a character and a mood are not, so I feel that music reflects that best. I use it as a field study, but many times also on set, I put on the music and create the atmosphere from which I transform myself into the character.

Re flecting on your journey as an actor, what has been the most unexpected lesson you've learned about yourself or your acting?
It's actually something I already knew, but this profession constantly reminds me of, and I love that it does: I don't know anything. I have millions of things to learn, and there will always be many more to come. It can be a bit overwhelming at times to think that, no matter how much you want to learn and grow, you will never have complete knowledge, but actually, I find it fascinating to know that every day you will go out into the world and learn new things. I think it's a thought that keeps you constantly with your eyes open, keeps you curious, interested in what's around you, and in how human behavior can be. It is a lesson that helps me in my work, to put things in perspective, and also to manage my self-demands.

full look GEORGES HOBEIKA
jewelry TOUS

full look PRADA
jewelry TOUS

“Music is a tool I use extensively for my characters, to work on them, even for casting. All my characters have had a playlist with songs they would probably listen to, songs that remind me of a scene or describe a character's emotion.”

Clara Galle speaks with Alban E. Smajli
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

bra VALENTINO
dress ANA LOCKING
jewelry TOUS

team credits

seen Leire Cavia
art direction Josefina Maiza
styled Manu Mendi
muah Pablo Macías by ARMANI Beauty
fashion direction Chidozie Obasi
talent Clara Galle
retouch Sara Ivars
set design Lucho Campos + Josefina Maiza

As you continue to evolve in your career, what are some personal or professional goals that you aspire to achieve?
Obviously, I have speci fic dreams, such as directors or actors I would like to work with, genres or stories I would like to tell. I have learned to write down the things I want on a list and keep them there but let my path choose me, which will always find me striving, working, and learning, since many times what comes is even better than what I wished for. But my greatest wish is to be able to choose things with my heart and see that I am improving, growing as a person and as an actress.

In a world that often feels chaotic and overwhelming, what role do you believe art and storytelling play in helping us navigate and make sense of our experiences?
I believe that telling stories, as well as listening to the stories that are told to you, is essential. Since I was a little girl, my weekend plans with my family (even though my parents don’t professionally belong to this world) have been to go see a play at the theatre or a movie at the cinema. I have grown up with that, and I don't know how I would reason in my head if these activities had not been a regular part of my life, if I had not grown up listening to stories. There is something about sharing, about knowing the same story, seeing the same movie, having the same or different feelings about the same story, that makes society become a community, and makes us think and consider things.

follow artist @claaragalle

all images for LE MILE Magazine (c) Leire Cavia

Andrew Georgiades - Interview

.aesthetic talk
Andrew Georgiades
Breaking Digital Boundaries

interview Chidozie Obasi

Andrew Georgiades, the British-born, Greek Cypriot creative, is redefining modern artistry. From theatre and cinema to high fashion, his journey defies convention.

Rejecting industry norms, Georgiades blends his love for photography, music, and cinema with his fashion career. Embracing Bruce Lee’s philosophy of being like water, he navigates the fast-paced digital era with authenticity and balance, prioritizing mental health and personal growth.

Andrew wears
coat + scarf Nanushka
shirt + bag Issey Miyake Homme Plissé
trousers Loro Piana

“My first artistic medium was theatre and cinema. I fell in love with photography […]. Fashion came later, starting with retail jobs at Hollister and AllSaints, which led to modeling and opened my eyes to the interconnected world of fashion.”

Andrew Georgiades speaks with Chidozie Obasi
LE MILE .Digital

Chidozie Obasi
Was fashion your key go-to goal or did you dab into other stuff prior to venturing in this field?
Andrew Georgiades
Never. In fact my first artistic medium was theatre and cinema. At school I wanted to be an actor, and was deeply passionate about filmmaking as a craft and artform. This led me to fall in love with photography, and continue to achieve a bachelor's degree in multimedia design. Fashion came later on for me, my first two part time jobs (retail at Hollister and Allsaints) led to being signed as a model which introduced me to the fashion industry, and with it, opened my eyes to a world which felt very transferrable and intertwined with my other creative passions. I always knew modelling was not my end goal, and ended up combining all my talents to take advantage of social media platforms and the digital era to further my positioning in this high fashion industry.

As you’re paving the way amid a sea of social media creators in an age permeated by digitalisation, how did you manage to start in this field back in the day?
In a world dampened by labels and boxes, I approached social media in a more holistic way. For example, when instagram found popularity amidst the fashion industry, ‘models’ were encouraged to use this platform as their ‘portfolio’, sharing campaigns, and professional shoots. I was also advised to ‘create a separate account for my photography endeavours, as people follow me to see my face, and not my skills as a photographer’. I deliberately rejected this approach, and instead, used social media to show, behind the scenes of my job, my own personal fashion style, my personality, humour, photography, music and cinema tastes etc. And in doing so, I became a fully fleshed out human to my followers rather than a two-dimensional pretty face. This has become the normal approach now, but at the time, was a rarity. My style also aimed to bridge the gap between streetwear and culture and luxury high fashion.

What do you feel that has changed in this landscape?
I think what’s notable is how the landscape is in a constant and rapid state of change. For this reason I'm always looking ahead, with the intention to be adaptable and to evolve, and to stay ahead of the curve in a way that is truthful and unique to myself.

How do you manage to navigate through this system, staying afloat?
What did Bruce Lee once say? “Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. Put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a teapot it becomes the teapot.Water can flow or it can crash, be like water, my friend.” I love that quote, it gives this sense of being ever present, and not changing who you are. I'm water, I'm not trying to be ice, or fire, but be adaptable, be able to manoeuvre with swiftness. But ultimately, outside of constantly reinventing yourself, I'd say nourishing relationships, being true to yourself, kind to others, unapologetic, and believing and loving yourself. And embrace the ever teaching lessons of life, they come in different forms, every single day, you’ll miss them if you’re not looking.

Speaking of mental health and the hardships of being constantly exposed to the public eye, there must be a severe pressure to always ‘show’ parts of you in order to feel valued, coveted and appreciated. How much weight do you give this job, and where do you see yourself in a few years time?
I give this job a lot of weight, and at least the first few years, whilst being immensely enjoyable and deeply fulfilling, I burnt myself out. Which I think is sometimes necessary when starting out, especially if you want to pave your way. Now I have found more of a healthy balance: I know when to turn off, I don’t rush to post in real time all the time the way I used to. I am comfortable saying no to things if it doesn't feel right, I say no to most things. Might I add, I would also do this when I had no work and no money, and I think those no’s led to a lot of the opportunities I have today. In a few years time, specifically, that’s a secret, I keep certain things close to my chest. But every year is an evolution for me, I don’t like cycles of repetitiveness or being complacent or comfortable. So in a few years things are going to look a lot different, a level up.

Andrew wears
coat Dunhill
blazer Denzil Patrick
trousers Dries Van Noten

“The first few years were fulfilling but led to burnout. Now I have found a healthy balance: I know when to turn off and am comfortable saying no to things that don't feel right.”

Andrew Georgiades speaks with Chidozie Obasi
LE MILE .Digital

full look Loro Piana

team credits

seen Tom J. Johnson
styled Daniel D'Armas
grooming Doey Drummond
fashion direction Chidozie Obasi
talent Andrew Georgiades

What is the most challenging aspect of your job, and why?
I think as a creative and artist, and having built a large audience via social media the expectation to be constantly online, live and seen. As we’re in this cycle to show the ‘process’ of everything we do, our entire lives, curating instagram posts, posting stories everyday. Or at least following the landscape to be aware of the shifts and changes, all of these things can be a distraction from the creative process. Historically, when an actor prepares for a role, this happens in silence, when a musician lives the experiences he draws inspiration from to write, or when he records his album, he gives life that space to breathe. Being constantly online can take away from these life experiences you are required to live presently in, and to ’disappear’ in order to return better. This expectation to have this whole process documented in real time, can hinder creative thinking and headspace.

And how about the most satisfactory?
Everything else. The social aspect, meeting and learning from people from all walks of life with all different talents, travelling to the most beautiful places on earth, eating the best food, experiencing unique events you may otherwise not have access to, sporting events, F1, watches and wonders, Festivals, Cinema screenings, Theatre, Live music performances in intimate settings, art exhibitions, fashion shows. I’m a geek. I love the things I love, and this world is a platform to truly experience these things through a unique lens. Also the doors it opens, and the unlimited potential to go wherever you want from here.

What are your plans ahead of your future?
I want to design luxury products, fashion and interior design. I want to act in films, I want to make films, I want to be involved in the production of music, I want to shoot campaigns, I want to feature in campaigns. I want to collaborate with people who I respect, admire and inspire me. I want to inspire people. I want to launch my own brand. I want to live presently, I want to love intensely.

Future hopes for yourself and the industry?
God I don't know, I think I want to move away from virality for the sake of virality. I would love the care to maintain the artforms remain strong with less of the pretentiousness. I don’t have the answers, but I do believe in humanity. I believe I am on the right path.

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Jesse Draxler - Interview

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Jesse Draxler
The World Is Mine & I’m Thinking About You

written Natalia Finnis-Smart

In the ever-evolving world of art there are certain artists who continue to leave a lasting impact on its shifting creative landscape. For many, their work transcends time and leaves a lasting, standout legacy that serves as an inspiration to the future.

One of these master originators, who first rose to fame during Tumblr’s early days, is Jesse Draxler. Throughout his career, the creative visionary has remained steadfast in presenting his imaginative creations by way of unapologetic experimentation and aesthetic dogmatism. I recently sat down with the aesthetic trailblazer to delve deeper into the experimentations that fuel his creative output, his latest true-to-form exhibition U&I, and new book The World is Mine and I’m Thinking About You published by Sacred Bones.

Jesse Draxler
THREE MOMENTS OF AN EXPLOSION

“When Tumblr came around, I started using it quite a bit, and I started gaining quite a bit of a following quickly. It changed the entire way that I worked. At that point, it was clear the Internet would be the main mode of distribution of my work moving forward.”

Jesse Draxler speaks with Natalia Finnis-Smart
LE MILE Magazine ISSUE, Nr. 35

Our conversation starts at the root of his meteoric ascent and how it has shaped his early career path. “In hindsight, I reflect on it quite fondly. I see it as a part of an origin story of sorts,” Draxler says. “I was moving a lot. My life was pretty chaotic, but I remember the time leading up to Tumblr.”

“I remember getting a text from a friend saying, ‘You should check out this Tumblr thing.’ I checked it out, and it took off very quickly. It changed the entire way that I worked. At the time, I was focused on making my work look very good in person, thinking that’s how I would get known. When Tumblr came around, I started using it quite a bit, and I started gaining quite a bit of a following pretty quickly. Not easily, but quickly. Then I thought, ‘Okay, this is how everybody is going to see my work.’ At that point it was very clear the Internet was going to be the main mode of distribution of my work moving forward.”

We then delve into how his Midwestern background has shaped the themes he explores in his art and journey altogether. “I’m starting to think about it a little bit more as it emerges in my work. In my show, U&I, there are pictures of deer fur and some bones which I took in Wisconsin, where I'm from, and I chose to use the images for aesthetic reasons, rather than conceptual. Now, reflecting on the way it interacts with everything else, the way it tells a story of where I was and what I was thinking about at the time and what I focused on, I think it’s really influential. I’ve been going back to Wisconsin as much as I can. I have a tiny cabin there. It has become my favorite place to spend free time, when I have any.”

Draxler proceeds to express the role experimentation has played in his process as an artist who blurs boundaries between different mediums, also touching on how to choose the most fitting ones to showcase as part of his artistic vision. “I’m still figuring it out myself. That’s the fun part, you know? Just learning how it works out. It's always changing. It's always progressing. I’ve been thinking a lot about how it's so important that I work directly with my hands. I will work on more conceptual-only projects in some fashion down the road where I don't have to have my hands in everything. But right now, with the way things are unfolding, if I wasn't hands-on with everything and I wasn't constantly using experimentation as a means of creation, none of these pieces would even exist.”

As experimentation is a significant aspect of his work, so are the messages he aims to communicate through his creations. Yet, Draxler acknowledges it can still pose a sense of difficulty because of how audiences are ultimately left with their own interpretations. “That's the hardest question, right? It's really up to the viewer and how they respond to it. I have control up to an extent until they view it. There are many themes of transformation, I would say, in my work, which is very important to me, and much of what I embody is centered on thought-causation as well as challenging the status quo. Those concepts are definitely rooted in my work, but my work is really meant to engage the viewer in a way that provokes them to discover meanings themselves.”

Speaking about his collaborations like those with the late Prince for his PlectrumElectrum album cover and an artistic collection with Alexander McQueen’s sister brand “McQ,” Draxler shares how these influences have shaped his practices and overall evolution. “I feel like, if I do one now, it's going to be a whole different story. The Prince collaboration was a long time ago. That's when I still lived in Minneapolis, and McQueen, that was more recent. Every time I get a big commission, I go through a period of sheer panic because it becomes the most important thing in my life at that moment, I must nail it. There are definitely moments when I'm working on those collaborations where I feel like I cannot do this. I'm about to fail. I have to call them. I have to tell them I can't. I can't deliver the greatness you deserve. I’m sorry. I feel it every time, and I have to push through that. It usually takes days, or it used to. And usually at the end of that, it's the greatest work.”

Jesse Draxler
LIQUID SWORDS

Jesse Draxler
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“I’ve been thinking a lot about how it's so important that I work directly with my hands. If I wasn't hands-on with everything and constantly using experimentation as a means of creation, none of these pieces would even exist.”

Jesse Draxler speaks with Natalia Finnis-Smart
LE MILE Magazine ISSUE, Nr. 35

Jesse Draxler
LOVERS, The World Is Mine, I´m Thinking About You
published by Sacred Bones

In relation to his newest creations, Draxler premiered a new exhibition in Los Angeles, titled U&I, that dissects the concept of humans’ relationships to the world around us. “The title of the show goes back to emotional content. Something I've been focusing on recently is the idea of togetherness, even though I don't really like that word. But I guess relationships are on my mind a lot. I don't mean romantic relationships. I mean the relationship between everything, including the relationships we have with the objects in our life, our environment, the T-shirt we're wearing, our toothbrush, everything. I mean, the relationship with everything and how those objects and things we interact with all the time actually influence us. If we change those things, even subtly, how can they change our lives in big, meaningful ways? The title U&I is meant to be kind of a grand name, very inviting as well, open. It's not just me, it's you too. You're part of this, you and me. You're in this with me in some sense. It’s this idea of being more than an individual, blurring the lines of individuality, exploring broad relationships between not just each other, but from macro to micro, the inner world and the outer.”

Draxler’s U&I exhibition featured various artistic expressions, such as the inclusion of conceptual sculptures, video projections, and painted panels which he believes is key to the overall immersive experience. “As I mentioned before, the whole show is like a puzzle box, where the different pieces inform one another in a significant way. Including all of these elements tells a complete story. Including the sculptures is incredibly important because I wanted to highlight the physical aspect of my work. I really wanted the show to have a more experiential quality where people can enter a space and engage with an object, rather than just viewing it from the wall. The video shown outside on the building wall is a process documentary, shot entirely by me, showing the creation of every piece in the show. The videos inside are behind the DJs - vinyl will be spun all night before and between performances. Each performer throughout the evening, of which there are three - Ho99o9, Daniel Davies, and God Is War - has their own projection video created by myself specifically for them.” He goes on… “…those are only viewable on that first night of the exhibition but being able to see all of those along with the physical works, the panels on the walls, and the book, the clothing, I involved many senses because I want it to be all-encompassing. I want this world to envelop you.”

“The title of the show goes back to emotional content. Relationships are on my mind a lot. Not just romantic ones, but the relationship between everything, including the objects in our life, our environment. How those things influence us and can change our lives in meaningful ways.”

Jesse Draxler speaks with Natalia Finnis-Smart
LE MILE Magazine ISSUE, Nr. 35

With the show’s premiere comes his new book, The World is Mine and I’m Thinking About You, which tackles several present day concepts like the role of aesthetics and social media in today’s society. Draxler shares more of his approach to these topics and the conversations he intends to evoke: “I started including screenshots of tweets. I've always thought of tweets as more than just a tweet, especially a really good one. I screenshot a lot of them and have intentions to do things with them eventually. I found all the content for the book by going through my old hard drives and such. I also went through social media because Instagram now has an archive function. I looked back at my stories archive from three and four years ago to see what I was doing. I would come across things and think, ‘Wow, that was really good. I forgot about that.’ Here's another use of social media that's not social, it's just me looking through all that. I started seeing some really good screenshots, and I thought, ‘Oh, that should be in the book, all of that should be in the book.’ It just emerged and evolved from there, using screenshots in a book. There's not really a narrative, it's more like if I include this screenshot, it makes sense to include this one, and I can build on that. If there's any narrative, it's more supposed to be a provocation towards social media. It's meant to be a question of what's going on, how we perceive it, how we accept it, or if we accept it without questioning. By using these screenshots, I was able to communicate my thoughts, reactions, and responses to a lot of current events through social media and what's happening with technology.”

Concluding our conversation, I can’t help but ask his advice for aspiring artists who are beginning to explore their creative paths. “I recently tweeted not too long ago: don’t take advice. It’s common for me to have conflicting beliefs. I always find myself in that situation. I never really took advice from others. If someone gave me advice, I would usually do the opposite or think, ‘Well, that’s what you did. I want to do something different.’ “So, I’ve always avoided giving advice. What I will say is do you as much as you possibly can. That’s what I decided a few years ago, being as me as I can is the best thing I can do for my art.”

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Astrit Ismaili - Interview

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Astrit Ismaili
Bloom Unapologetically

written Monica de Luna

Astrit Ismaili, a trailblazer in the realms of performance art and experimental pop, crafts a sonic world where transformation is a lived reality. "The First Flower" project emerges as a vibrant testament to Ismaili's ingenious fusion of sound, narrative, and a profound exploration of identity.

Through an album that transcends conventional music boundaries, Ismaili plunges into the heart of queer experiences, challenging societal norms with every note. This interview unveils the layers of Ismaili's artistic vision, where the act of blooming becomes a bold statement against the backdrop of a world grappling with beauty standards, gender dysphoria, and the quest for queer visibility. With "The First Flower," Ismaili narrates the tale of transformation and at the same time embodies it, inviting listeners to witness the power of metamorphosis and the beauty of becoming.

Astrit Ismaili
art Ville Vidoe
styled GH
hair + make up Elvi
prosthetist + assistant Simon Marsiglia
garments Tra My Nguyen

“Music, especially the singing voice, has transformational properties. It transcends words, becoming universal. My goal is for the music to be catchy, leaving the public with a piece in their head and heart.”

Astrit Ismaili speaks with Monica de Luna
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

Monica de Luna
Your work as a performance artist delves into the transformational potential of bodies and spaces. How do you approach the fusion of experimental pop music and performance to explore this concept?
Astrit Ismaili
I believe that music, and especially the singing voice, has transformational properties. The voice, produced from within, and the melodies can often be transcendental. Words that are sung add an emotionality that somehow makes it surpass the meaning of the actual words, therefore it becomes more universal. For me, it is important that the music I make is catchy so that the public leaves the performance with a piece of music in their head and heart!

"The First Flower" project is derived from your previous performance work titled 'MISS.' Could you tell us how the transition from performance to an experimental pop music album took place and what themes you carried over from 'MISS'?
I compose music for all my performances, including ‘MISS’. However, this is the first time that the music of the performance has become an album with the intention to connect with the public outside the realm of live performance. The album deals with many different subjects but is mainly about the courage to transform and ‘bloom’ in hostile environments, and by doing so, not only changing themselves but also the surroundings around them, just like the first flower on earth, which is the totem of the album.

In "The First Flower," you explore the perspective of the world's first flower undergoing physical and spiritual transitions. How did you use this unique perspective to address issues such as beauty standards, gender dysphoria, and queer realities within the context of your album?
The transformation of a plant into the first flower on earth, which is believed to have happened hundreds of thousands of years ago, has indeed revolutionized the entire ecosystem. Knowing that a lot of organisms on earth depend on flowering plants and exist thanks to them. On the other hand, this change came with a big price. The commodification of nature and the extraction of natural resources has brought us to a climate emergency. The songs speak about the industrialization of flowers and climate change but also about queer phenomena that, within the botanical world, happen naturally and undisturbed. The story of the first flower is used as a metaphor to talk about my experience as a queer person navigating environments that work against queerness. Some songs are also quite political and personal and speak about the struggle of identities that are fighting for their political existence in society.

You mentioned using the first flower as a metaphor for queer experience and transformation. Could you dive deeper into how you developed this metaphor throughout the album? Were there any personal experiences or historical events that influenced its integration?
In the song 'Queer Garden,' among other things, the lyrics talk about the sexual fluidity of plants. For example, Avocado trees seamlessly transition between male and female reproductive phases within a span of 36 hours. During the day, they unfurl pollen-producing flowers, while by night, they bloom with pollen- receiving buds. Similar examples exist in nature, and over hundreds and thousands of years, while in our societies, anything that doesn't fit the patriarchal system is oppressed. I, like most queer people, have to navigate in societies that cater to heteronormativity, and metaphorically speaking, "blooming" unapologetically in these environments feels like an image of a flower growing out of concrete.

The album showcases a stylistic hybridity of performance art pop, hyper, gabber, and glam, along with contemporary sound design. How did you decide on these stylistic elements, and how do they contribute to the album's narrative?
The album represents an eclectic selection of genres that somehow influenced me, consciously and unconsciously, in my upbringing. In general, the melodies are quite pop and catchy, but the structures of the songs are actually fighting the traditional structure of a pop song. The songs in the album are rather way longer than the usual songs, and the lyrics are definitely not the basic love songs that one can hear on the radio nowadays. I guess, coming from performance, my approach to writing lyrics is a way to tell non-linear stories, as well as to fabulate, speculate, and be playful. The narrative and the unconventional way of how I compose the melodies for this album asked for a more unique music production approach. The decision to work with different producers for each song and sometimes even a few producers in one song allowed for different references and ideas to come together, and voila, this is what came out!


Your work often involves alter egos, body extensions, and wearable musical instruments. How do these elements help you embody different possibilities for becoming, and what role do they play in your creative process?
Through alter-egos, body extensions, and wearable musical instruments, I try to expand the human body beyond its norms. I question distinctions between natural and artificial, real and fiction, body and machine. By doing so, I want to understand where our bodies start and end and how this extension relates to current socio-political contexts in relation to gender and identity.

“Femininity, like flowers, is seen as delicate but is actually resilient and intelligent. I believe masculinity and femininity exist in nature beyond gender, and I showcase oppressed notions as empowering.”

Astrit Ismaili speaks with Monica de Luna
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

Astrit Ismaili

You've touched on reinterpreting femininity within your work. Could you expand on how this exploration has evolved over your career? Are there other aspects of identity politics you're interested in exploring through your future work?
The use of wearable musical instruments, body extensions, and fiction in my work are tools to somehow move further from the bodies and identity questions that we are dealing with today. To be honest, identity politics bore the hell out of me; I wish we did not have to deal with it at all. However, the environment is pressing us to deal with urgent concrete matters because they really affect my life and then also my work. So I find myself in between telling stories that seem urgent and using my voice politically, but more importantly, contemplating future bodies, new bodies, and other possibilities of becoming, referencing material from academia, biology, science fiction, etc.

You've been active in the Kosovo children's music scene since the early 2000s. How has your background in music composition and singing influenced your approach to performance art and experimental music?
Well, I've realised there's a power in being able to do it on your own. So, of course, you never do anything really alone, which is also an illusion, but this thing of working intuitively with the process and not splitting it too much up into parts is something I learned a lot. I think has been working for me and makes it interesting for me to go back to it as kind of my own technique of making music.

And then in terms of next projects, you said you're working on new music, right?
From a very young age, I've been surrounded by women musicians, and singing as a child with my sister surely left a mark on my artistic journey. My grandmother had a great voice and was always singing and telling stories around the house. My mother, Selvete Krasniqi, is a music composer, and she introduced us to music and art. As a teenager, I worked at a radio station and had the chance to listen to and select new music for my show. While doing so, I loved guessing who would be a star. I was right a few times; for example, I guessed that Gaga, Amy Winehouse, and Adele would be big stars when they just came out, and they were. I loved playing that game! Later, but still quite young, I directed a music video for 'E dehun' by Era Istrefi, one of the biggest pop stars in Kosovo. Naturally, pop music became my main field of research, always seeking new sounds, aesthetics, and live pop performances interested in the use of fashion, art, and social questions by pop stars.

However, my obsession with pop music took a different approach and direction in my practice. At first, I was fascinated by the impact of pop music on society. I adopted pop music songwriting and pop performativity in my practice, but my approach was more spatial, experimental with a goal to explore the transformational potential of bodies and spaces. The performance art scene allowed me to take a more conceptual approach and also freed me from the weight of being an entertainer, which is something I am not so interested in my practice. Making this album now has made it very clear that I will continue recording my music in the future. Reaching the public through recorded music is another outlet that creates more accessibility in my work, and I am definitely interested in that!

Can you share how your collaboration with artists like Mykki Blanco and Colin Self shaped the sound and narrative of "The First Flower"?
This project is indeed a dream project. Having the opportunity to work with Mykki Blanco, someone I looked up to for many years who has inspired me and an entire generation with their courageous presence and their cutting-edge work. It's been a total honor to work with Mykki, and their contribution in ‘Miss Kosovo’ has definitely elevated the song artistically and politically, making the song, I believe, an anthem for the underrepresented identities who are fighting to be recognized and acknowledged.

Colin Self produced ‘Voices’, a very personal song to me which actually speaks about my experience of the Kosovo war. Me and Colin are also friends, and they produced a song that is indeed one of my favorites in the album. Working with them has been so inspiring and safe; it's always beautiful working with queer peers and supporting each other. I love our beautiful connection and friendship and appreciate Colin's work as an artist, and I am blessed to have a song with this great artist and friend.

In your artistic practice, femininity is seen through a queer lens as a transformational force. How does your exploration of femininity intersect with your examination of pop culture and identity politics through music and performance?
Flowers seem to be considered feminine and delicate, fragile which usually in society have a connotation to weakness and naivety. But in reality, their story is one of intelligence, sophistication, beauty, and resilience. I feel the same about femininity; I believe both masculinity and femininity exist in nature in different shapes and qualities outside sex and gender. Our bodies are made of both and more. I am always interested in working with notions that are oppressed and showcasing them as empowering.

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Patricia Vernhes - Interview

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Patricia Vernhes
The Phenomena of Keepin’ On

written Colter Ruland

Patricia Vernhes has gone by many other names. She was professionally known as Pati Yang and formed the bands Children, Flykkiller, and Patti Yang Group. Her Polish birth name is Patrycja Grzymałkiewicz. Her name, like her life and work, is constantly changing and reforming.

Vernhes’s past lives are manifold. She grew up under martial law in Poland, touring with her punk rock stepfather, Jan Borysewicz of the band Lady Pank, as the country transitioned from communism to democracy; she emigrated to London, lying about her age in order to study at university, only to have her visa denied while she bartended during the night to go to class in the morning; she started several experimental bands and released her debut album, Jaszczurka, in 1998 with Sony Records; she moved to the United States by way of New York, where she began some of her first paintings, before finally settling in the desert near Joshua Tree, California.

“Once I stepped out of the car for the first time, I knew I needed to live here. There is ether around, waiting to be filled with ideas, creations, manifested thoughts and wants. It's like living on a blank canvas.”

Patricia Vernhes speaks with Colter Ruland
LE MILE Magazine HEROES, Nr. 32

Vernhes’s interdisciplinary artistic practice is the convergence of these many past and present lives, incorporating elements of sound installation, sculptures, found objects, and abstract painting. No matter the type—she rightly disputes any concrete “classification” of herself or her work—the vein running through her story is the desert in which she currently lives with her new name, creating what she calls a “dialogue with the other side.”

Vernhes lives on a plot of land near the 70,000 acres of wilderness at Black Lava Butte, a part of the Sand to Snow National Monument. This environment, too, is a convergence of multiple ecosystems. This is an area where several deserts exchange boundaries, where chaparral and woodlands are found to the west, the San Bernardino Mountains beyond.

When she came to the desert, Vernhes was struck by the immense quiet: “I consider silence one of the rarest luxuries of the modern world. Once I stepped out of the car for the first time, I knew I needed to live here. There is ether around, waiting to be filled with ideas, creations, manifested thoughts and wants. It's like living on a blank canvas.”

Within the silence that the desert provides, Vernhes founded a studio where she creates sculptural work in an ongoing series called Other One and an experimental audio project called Noirmoutier with her husband Nicolas Vernhes, a music producer, mixer and engineer. The objects Vernhes creates are often encased in plaster and epoxy, an act of simultaneous exaltation and deconstruction. Noirmoutier adds a performance element to her work that, in her words, acts like a “blood pulse in the veins of an image.”

The two utilize a variety of instruments, including a set of 20 binaurally tuned quartz bowls, synthesizers and analog tape delays, to create auditory experiences inspired by the laws of sound, hallucinatory resonance, and sound therapy.

Noirmoutier creates soundscapes that remove referential frameworks and clear structures so listeners can sit with themselves, reminiscent of how animals might perceive, understand, and interpret sound. Their aim is to convey a nonverbal narrative inspired by the stillness of the desert. The same is true of Vernhes’s sculptural work: the structures of objects and how we might expect to interpret them are realigned, pulled out, or hidden altogether. By recasting an object, Vernhes both destroys the original and elevates it as a work of art.

“I can never put an object back where I took it from in exactly the same way. That place will never be the same as it was before I picked it up. It’s a renewal in the sense of giving a new meaning to an object and transferring it, with that new mission, elsewhere.”

Patricia Vernhes speaks with Colter Ruland
LE MILE Magazine HEROES, Nr. 32

While her work can operate separately—here one might point out her sculpture, over there her music—they are meant to work together. This cooperation extends to the environments these objects and sounds reside in.

“I paint with light and shadow and everything that surrounds me.” Vernhes frequently installs her painting and sculptural work in the surrounding hills. Their placement outside in the desert is documented like one might document a rare ritual.

The experience of Vernhes’s work, especially alongside Noirmoutier’s live performances, recalls our oldest stories and the oral traditions they come from—how many of them do not have singular, identifiable authors and are therefore rendered genderless and fluid. Her work, like the oral tradition, is not cemented in written language. Like these stories, often centered on heroes who are emblematic of entire societies or ways of being, Vernhes’s work, rooted in the personal, is emblematic of the universal nature of things: the planet, memory, and existence.

Vernhes cherry-picks elements of larger, unseen dramas.

A camera Vernhes’s grandfather gave to her mother, now covered in plaster, encloses the memories of her familial life in Poland. This sculptural camera, called Les Premiers Pas, recorded Vernhes’s first steps as a child. One only needs to peer a little deeper to see the larger backdrop of growing up during that time.

“One of my earliest memories,” says Vernhes, “is watching the army and tanks outside of our house. Sometimes I see this memory from above, as if I took myself out of it and witnessed it as a ghost. Sometimes I see it abstractly: brutalist architecture, vandalised staircases, rationed food, empty stores, censored art and music that led to a vibrant underground culture, propaganda, double standards in education when we secretly learned at home the ‘other’ history that we weren’t allowed to disclose outside our homes in order to keep our families safe. This phenomena of keepin’ on as if all was OK, as if joy and love were our birthright no one could take away—it was full of polarities.”

It is this phenomena, wild and protean, that Vernhes wrangles and concentrates into her objects. She transmutes the past into profound meditations on purpose and renewal.

A decade ago, Vernhes’s intestines twisted and she nearly died. Her internal scarring, the result of the traumatic handling of her organs in an emergency procedure, formed adhesions. Vernhes, who recently underwent another surgery to address this past trauma, speaks of this time in relation to her own work, of removing and handling objects that form new bonds, adhesions, with worlds they may not be familiar with. A chess board is repainted in order to void its own rules; a large piece of natural driftwood is artificially sealed in white plaster; two lava stones are placed together to form a pair of organs during the pandemic in 2020, when we were only beginning to learn how COVID-19 affects the lungs.

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The organic and the humanmade become interchangeable, handled with care even if they are forever altered. Like Vernhes’s own body, these objects are reformed to find new purpose. “I can never put an object back where I took it from in exactly the same way. That place will never be the same as it was before I picked it up. It’s a renewal in the sense of giving a new meaning to an object and transferring it, with that new mission, elsewhere.”

Once Vernhes takes an object from its natural state or recast from its original intent, it is an action that has the potential to reverberate throughout time. A river rock, taken from a dry lake bed in Johnson Valley near Landers in the Mojave Desert, might never have been touched by human hands until Vernhes came across it. A Japanese pachinko machine from the 1950s, found in a swap meet, can no longer function properly and dispense euphoria in the same way it was intended.

What kinds of lives do inanimate objects have outside the moments we are aware they exist? Can these things live independently of our involvement?

There is something inherently tense, grand, foreboding, tragic, perhaps comforting about using an object such as a pachinko machine or a river rock as a microcosm for existence. “The rocks are laughing at us,” recalls Vernhes, when she installed several works amongst the harsh shadows of boulders overlooking the desert. One’s existence, like the many lives Vernhes has lived, suddenly becomes so small when placed within a landscape that is millions of years old. So much of Vernhes’s work is about decentering our perceived importance.

There is an elegiac quality to these objects that are irrevocably changed. While they indeed remind us of our own mortality and uselessness, they also remind us that our utility is not codified. All things are able to undergo transformation, and because something has always behaved in one way, it doesn’t mean it cannot be changed. The memories trapped in Vernhes’s camera can simultaneously be about life under martial law or her first steps as a child. The river rock can be mourned for its removal from the desert or it can be lifted from its humble origins onto a pedestal as a remarkable work of art. Vernhes helps us escape from the labels we inflict upon each other and ourselves.

“I am thrilled to send my sculptures into the world so they can change whatever environments they end up in.” Perhaps the rocks, and any other objects Vernhes sends from her small studio in the desert, will carry their laughter with them.

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Chloë Cassens - Interview

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Chloë Cassens
Sacred Monster

written Colter Ruland

There are many ways to first encounter the work of Jean Cocteau. For some, it’s through his poetry and novels; for others, it’s through his films and paintings. While he might have flirted with a number of the major art movements he lived through, he never seemed fully committed to any one in particular, ultimately turning him into a chimera whose influence runs deep within culture, perhaps so deep it runs the risk of being underappreciated.

This is why Chloë Cassens decided to start her educational and essay project SACRED MONSTER: to excavate the surprising connections and lasting influence Cocteau continues to have on everything in contemporary life, from art, to celebrity, to sexuality. A writer and representative of the Severin Wunderman collection (the largest collection of Jean Cocteau in the world), Cassens offers an intimate perspective on a towering figure who has more in common with the art, movies and media you like than you might realize.

Chloë Cassens
seen by Frédéric Tröhler

Jean Cocteau
Illustrated Letter, Portrait of Peggy Guggenheim, s.d. (1956 c.)
Ink on paper, 22,5 x 15,5 cm
Private collection

©Adagp/Comité Cocteau, Paris, by SIAE 2024

“Cocteau’s power and true brilliance comes from the fact that, in my opinion, he and his work were consistent in theme and subject matter, even if it was extremely ahead of its time and taboo.”

Chloë Cassens speaks with Colter Ruland
LE MILE Magazine Digital

Colter Ruland
When was the first time you were conscious of Jean Cocteau’s importance in your own life?
Chloë Cassens
My grandfather passed away suddenly in 2008, and we were very close. I was 14 years old at the time. I remember being drawn quite strongly towards Cocteau’s work in that immediate aftermath, as it made me feel connected to Severin and was absolutely a way to process my grief. It was the first time that I felt really attracted to Cocteau on my own terms. I think that a large part of my ongoing research and interest in Cocteau will be rooted in that grief. It’s an emotional connection for me, in addition to being an intellectual pursuit.

The next issue’s theme is AGE OF CHANGE, which is fitting given that Cocteau worked across a plethora of mediums. Today one might be tempted to call him a nonconformist but what do you think?
I often say that Jean Cocteau is the cultural equivalent of a Rorschact test. What people define him as, or how they know him, really says more about them than it does Cocteau. Cocteau’s power and true brilliance comes from the fact that, in my opinion, he and his work were consistent in theme and subject matter, even if it was extremely ahead of its time and taboo. In some ways, I think the terms to best describe him came after his lifetime, depending on who’s talking. It’s certainly apt to call him a nonconformist. I’m a rock chick at the end of the day, so in my mind, he was Punk before Punk ever existed.

How do you think the response to Jean Cocteau has changed (or stayed the same) over the years?
It really depends on who I’m speaking with. To the film nerds I live with in Los Angeles, he’s a legend (and they’re not aware that he worked in every medium available to him, but think he was simply a filmmaker); the Parisians I hang with can’t believe that he isn’t a household name internationally, to all generations. To people in the art world, he’s on the upswing, especially following the Peggy Guggenheim exhibition in Venice. What’s consistent is that there’s always something to chew on and appreciate. Very rarely do I run into a negative response to Cocteau’s work, especially nowadays, which is interesting seeing as Cocteau wasn’t even cutting edge, but bleeding edge, so far ahead was he! And it’s a hallmark of those who are really at the forefront, cutting new paths and doing things that are truly different, to not be understood or fully appreciated by the public at large.

How do you respond to change in your own life?
I welcome it. I love change and find it comforting. It’s one of the few certainties we have in this life. To go in a woo-woo LA direction, I’m a Scorpio with a stellium in Scorpio. My oldest, closest friend is an astrologer, and tells me that most of those placements are in the 8th house, which signifies rebirth and change, on top of the fact that Scorpios have a propensity towards reinvention. Perhaps it’s just my nature. I get really antsy and irritable when things are too consistent for too long.

You’ve had an interesting trajectory, to say the least, from working at The Roxy as a teenager to DJing to working at The Sex Ed. How do these experiences culminate in your current work as a writer?
Speaking to the way change has affected my life, I’ve always had the mentality that I should roll with it, and go where the wind takes me. I wouldn’t say that I come from a place of “yes”, but rather, a place of “fuck it, why not?” Overthinking things can be my downfall, and jumping into something before asking too many questions has worked out (so far!). I started at The Roxy when I was only 14 years old and told by my parents to get a summer job. I think they would have been satisfied if I’d babysat kids in the neighborhood, but instead I got a job at the local rock club. I didn’t think much of it at the time, I just figured I could walk to work and I liked live music, so I reached out and they were crazy enough to give me a gig.

The same thing happened with The Sex Ed. I was preparing to move to Paris, ironically enough, for a master’s as I was quite stalled at the time. I got an email from Liz Goldwyn saying that we had mutual friends and that because of my DJ experience, could I help with her podcast? I thought to myself, sure, I’ll do this sex thing for a month or two, maybe learn a cool trick before I leave the country, and ended up loving the job so much that I stayed on for four years, and advanced well beyond just producing the podcast.

The same thing happened with SACRED MONSTER. I had the thought that I needed to do it, and jumped in. I started to write, and here we are. There’s never a good time, so you might as well just do that thing now and think about logistics later. While I go where change takes me, I never leave something unfinished, and I never, ever half-ass anything. If I decide to do something, it’s because I think it’s worth my time. If I’ve learned anything, being the granddaughter of someone who was literally called “The Time Lord” while he was alive, it’s that time is our most valuable resource. I absolutely loathe wasting it.

Jean Cocteau
Fear Giving Wings to Courage (La Peur donnant des ailes au courage), 1938
Graphite, chalk, and crayon on cotton, 154,9 x 272,1 cm
Collection of Phoenix Art Museum, Gift of Mr. Cornelius Ruxton Love Jr

©Adagp/Comité Cocteau, Paris, by SIAE 2024

“Cocteau is relevant to contemporary culture in so many ways. As you mentioned, he was a chimera, always changing, never conforming. Pop stars today are expected to have set 'eras,' which is something he was doing way before the practice.”

Chloë Cassens speaks with Colter Ruland
LE MILE Magazine Digital

Philippe Halsman Jean Cocteau
New York, USA - 1949

©Philippe Halsman / Magnum Photos

Do you think this multi-hyphenate background allows you to better understand the breadth and variety of Jean Cocteau’s work?
I do, to a degree. I have an appreciation for his flexibility in his choice of creative mediums. I think that being literally and figuratively nimble keeps you sharp in life; helps you go further, makes you and your work stronger, and makes you overall a healthier human being in mind and body. Cocteau was constantly experimenting and surrounded himself with young people, which kept his eye looking consistently ahead. I think that perhaps my background has done the same for me.

Do you think there is perhaps a link between your perspective from working at The Sex Ed and the thread of eroticism running throughout a lot of Jean Cocteau’s work? What can this 20th Century eroticism tell us about sexuality today?
I am so grateful to have had my experience at The Sex Ed because it really informs my worktoday in more ways than I can count. First of all, I learned through practice how to educate and meet people where they are on a tough subject. Sex is the background software running in everyone’s life and it informs so much of our decision making, conscious or not. Sex is also extraordinarily taboo, regardless of audience or background or mindset. The deeper I come to understand sex in culture and society the more layers to the taboo there are to discover.

I was hanging out with a new friend, an artist, in Paris not too long ago. He started to tell me that he was interested in exploring some of what he called the “darker” – meaning sexual – aspects of his psyche and incorporating them into his practice. But he was stumped when I asked why he thought merely exploring sex and pleasure would equate to darkness. Maybe for him it was a French, Catholic thing, I don’t know. There’s a lot of really heavy shit tied to sex in that way. At The Sex Ed, we always approached sex from a perspective of joy, emphasizing both the connection between mind and body as well as everyone’s right to pleasure. And I think that Cocteau, in his exuberant, queer – and vulnerable – exploration and depiction of his desires, for lack of a better word, triggered people who clearly had a lot of baggage associated with sex and eroticism. It's a subject that I’m super comfortable talking about. I could talk about sex and art and Cocteau all day long, and again the next day.

Cartier Paris

Academician’s Sword for Jean Cocteau, 1955
Gold, silver, emerald, rubies, diamond, white opal (originally ivory), onyx, blue enamel, and steel blade)
Lunghezza: 87 cm
Cartier Collection

©Adagp/Comité Cocteau, Paris, by SIAE 2024.

Jean Cocteau
Untitled (Sans titre), 1930
Ink on paper, 29,6 x 20,9 cm
Centre Pompidou, Paris. Musée national d’art moderne / Centre de création industrielle, Gift, 2018

©Adagp/Comité Cocteau, Paris, by SIAE 2024

As the representative of The Severin Wunderman Collection (the largest collection of Jean Cocteau in the world), how do you think Jean Cocteau remains relevant in contemporary culture at-large?
I think Cocteau is relevant to contemporary culture in so many ways. As you mentioned, he was a chimera, always changing, never conforming. Pop stars today are expected to have set “eras,” which is something he was doing way before the practice. He integrated the personal into his artistic output in a way that is also pretty normal today but was really looked down on in his time. He worked with whatever technology he had available to him, and wasn’t set in one medium, which is almost expected today. I think for sure he would be on TikTok, and would’ve been early to MySpace and Instagram had he been alive today. The tendency towards provocation I also think is relevant to today. Whether or not he enjoyed it, necessarily, he certainly poked the bear and participated in the 20th century French art world equivalent of what we call rap beefs today (the Surrealists were always big mad at Cocteau for one reason or another). Cocteau understood the attention economy in ways that his contemporaries didn’t.

Your project SACRED MONSTER is a bi-monthly essay project exploring Jean Cocteau, his friends, your grandfather Severin Wunderman, and contemporary culture. Some of the essays chart surprising territory, like connecting the dots between surrealism and Vanderpump Rules, for instance. How do you think the scope of the project will evolve over time?
The scope will evolve as I do, hopefully. I’ve already found that I work best in a “one for them, one for me” pattern with one educational Cocteau deep dive and one slightly broader cultural deep dive per month (like the Vanderpump/Surrealism piece). It’s always anchored and rooted in Cocteau, which is great, because there really is no limit to subject matter there. But I also hope to connect dots elsewhere when it comes to Cocteau and the meeting point between whatever you want to call it—high and low culture, academia and pop. I’m really excited about a piece I’m working on about K-Pop, Blackpink and how they are the latest example of a practice originating from Louis XIV and his cultivation of soft power via French arts and culture.

What was it like being surrounded by Jean Cocteau’s work throughout your life? I understand you even grew up around objects that were originally in his film La Belle et la Bête.
It was, more than everything, a privilege to grow up in this environment. Not a day goes by where I don’t think about how stupidly lucky I am to have had the experience and childhood I had.

Did your grandfather ever express how any of Jean Cocteau’s works made him feel?
He didn’t really speak to me about the emotion of it, but I think that there certainly was an element of pride to it. He was surrounded by a collection he worked extremely hard to be able to afford and acquire. He really lived and breathed and immersed himself in it, and anyone in his orbit had no option but to share in that environment as well. Pride and love.

Is there a particular work of Jean Cocteau’s that you continue to find something new in over time?
I always find something new and interesting in La Belle et La Bête. It’s an extremely kinky, layered piece of cinema history, and because it’s a great entry point for people unfamiliar with Cocteau, I find myself watching it a lot. I’ve yet to tire of it. I’ve also been revisiting Cocteau’s erotic novel Le Livre Blanc, which was so scandalous that he originally published it anonymously, as well as Le Testament d’Orphée, which was his final film and a sort of self-written eulogy. If you’re a die-hard fan of David Bowie, which I am, Le Testament d’Orphée was without doubt the blueprint for Blackstar.

What is next for you and SACRED MONSTER?
I have a lot coming. In a lot of ways, SACRED MONSTER is a central place for me to collect all of my work around Cocteau that’s accessible from anywhere in the world, because a lot of what I do involves in-person speaking and lecturing—and I’ll go anywhere that will have me, so don’t hesitate to reach out! I dream of taking SACRED MONSTER global and speaking in places that are new to me, like Japan, South Korea, Brazil, Mexico, truly anywhere. Have passport, will travel. I also have plans for exhibitions and projects that extend past my current essay format.

When it comes to SACRED MONSTER and Jean Cocteau, I guarantee that there is something to interest everyone. You’ll really just have to subscribe and follow along. I promise that if you do, you’ll end up a little bit smarter, which can’t hurt—unless you’re into that kind of thing, in which case, I’m always happy to oblige.

Agnes Obel - Interview

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Agnes Obel
The Power and Poise

written Chidozie Obasi

Denmark-born, Berlin-hailed multi-hyphenate artist Agnes Obel has an ability to walk a fine line creating records that are both emotive and raw. But the beauty of her work is that her entrancing, soul-laden voice also has the prowess to leap from alt-pop to indie, connecting the dots with emotional power.

“As a songwriter, I think the stuff I aim towards journey across a conscious level, turning into a quite subconscious state,” she details, with no signs of peacocking braggadocio on display. “So when I’m writing,” she explains, “I can see a pattern that isn’t planned: It’s sort of happens with a natural frequency, which ignites the longing of the most intimate emotions that run through my music.”

The singer’s impressive depth shines through the polarity of her practice—fear, love and grief are all in the picture, a canvas she meticulously curates by writing, recording and producing on her own terms—but it’s always by the sheer soulfulness and powerful ingenuity of the music, and the way Obel sings even the darkest lyrics with rhythmic and melodic daring. “I really like how language, when working metaphorically, can make the mind jump to different places,” she says, adding how “sometimes people wonder if my lyrics are truly about anything, but it's just how my imagination works.” Pure, gloomy and impactful, her vocals sit in the passenger seat of our consciousness, wrapping us in a comforting blanket of melodic thrills and poignant lyricism.

Agnes Obel
seen by Christopher Puttins

blazer MARKE
dress AVENIR

total look WILLIAM FAN

“I think the stuff I aim towards when making music journey on an unconscious level, quite subconscious dare I say. So when writing, I can see a pattern, but not a planned one: It’s sort of what is happening on a naturally-driven flow, which makes longing the biggest emotion that runs through my music, and again it’s not done on purpose.”

Agnes Obel speaks with Chidozie Obasi
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

seen CHRISTOPHER PUTTINS
styled CHIDOZIE OBASI
hair + make up KATJA MAASSEN
coordination DENNIS CAPPABIANCA
photo assistant MORITZ HILKER
talent AGNES OBEL

special thanks to Chateau Royal Berlin
LE MILE shot Agnes Obel in the Apartment of Chateau Royal Berlin

Chidozie Obasi
I'd love to begin by taking a trip down memory lane. What's your earliest memory of music?
Agnes Obel
Well, you know what? I truly can't recall a particular memory or moment that made me fall in love with music, but I guess there’s a few. I don't even know what my first memory is [Laughs]. I started playing piano really early, and my piano teacher was a cellist, who also played the instrument. She quickly discovered that I loved a particular repertoire, and the one I was really into was that of Impressionist pianists. I was 10 at the time, and I bought a compact disc with a DVD that played Debussy’s Clair de Lune: I don’t exactly remember the version, but I still have the CD somewhere at home and every time I listen to it, it provides me this out-of-body musical experience. I somewhat realised this piece was the start of a journey.

Could you agree that growing up in Denmark has impacted your sound in a way?
Undoubtedly so. We are all a product of where we grew up, and I feel like my parents truly influenced me in many ways. Also, the media I was exposed to rendered my experience of music and the repertoire I liked as a kid. But I guess a lot of the music my parents played back in Denmark was a of a simple kind. If they played classical music, it was more instrumental, but when they played jazz, it was more of an upbeat kind. I feel like I got my candour and simplicity from them.

A large fraction of your repertoire sounds lyrically cathartic and poignant, with a somewhat mystic layer that punches right into the soul. What exactly are the emotions that you wish to express in your music?
I think the stuff I aim towards when making music journey on an unconscious level, quite subconscious dare I say. So when writing, I can see a pattern, but not a planned one: It’s sort of what is happening on a naturally-driven flow, which makes longing the biggest emotion that runs through my music, and again it’s not done on purpose.

Do you think that, aside from longing, loss is another component of your repertoire? Because there’s a blend of love and melancholy in Riverside, for example, which stretches to Familiar, and I trust there’s someone or something subconsciously hidden you’re referring to.
It’s fun to personify things that echo on in your mind, and I really like how language, when working metaphorically, can make the mind jump to different places. Here in Germany, there's a strong tradition for one-to-one lyrics. And that's when I made Familiar: I was working in a studio next to German pop songwriters, and I realised that everything I wrote was a metaphor. I'm completely aware it doesn't always work, and sometimes people wonder if my lyrics are truly about anything. But it's just how my imagination works.

Starting from the soft and honest lyricism of Philharmonics (your 2011 album), and then walking through the highways of the Aventine (your 2013 album), you round up with Myopia, creating an extraordinary sonic journey that blends emotion and execution. How do you keep feeding your sound?
I think all humans process the world through storytelling, and when stuff happens to us, we make stories about them in different ways. I’ve found my way of making stories. I try as hard as I can because I write on my own, and I develop avenues I have maybe traveled to or I try to avoid. So here's so many things I can do and try to repeat. In my studio, I have settings for each single song. On technical terms, I have a setting for various voices. So I can, of course, go down the same sound route if I want to. Sometimes I try, as I use literature a lot, to feed my mind with words and ideas by finding a way of expressing what I feel. For example, now I have kids I feel like being pregnant was really crazy. It's like you have this cycle of biology happening inside of you and you have no control. I thought it was very inspiring and also a little scary. And now this feeling I have from becoming a parent I believe is one that relates to universalism, where you kind of feel love for everything except yourself. I never really had anything like that before. It's a very strange thing, a weird phenomenon that happens to your brain. I tried to become familiar with that through literature.


What does the familiar mean to you? There’s so many ambiences in your songs, like the river, the curse, the Aventine. There’s also a wealth of emotional and physical places that are very familiar to you, which are recurrent in your pieces.
I feel like I can only sort of make music from a very calm place. There's an element of irritation. I think that in Familiar, there was some irritation, but it was a sort of fear. I was annoyed at that sort of this fearfulness of the transformation and of what that could be. In this case, it was love. It's like the idea of a love or a thing that could exist, but there's this fear of what the outside world would think.

“We are all a product of where we grew up, and I feel like my parents truly influenced me in many ways. Also, the media I was exposed to rendered my experience of music and the repertoire I liked as a kid. But I guess a lot of the music my parents played back in Denmark was of a simple kind. If they played classical music, it was more instrumental, but when they played jazz, it was more of an upbeat kind. I feel like I got my candour and simplicity from them.”

Agnes Obel speaks with Chidozie Obasi
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

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And was there a particular moment that you found lost in your music and went through a state of myopia that made you refrain from writing?
Absolutely. When I made Myopia, that's the only time I really had a hard time making an album. And I can also tell now when I listen to it: My father died in 2014, and I'm not able to process it yet. However, I said to myself that I’d just keep going and continue whatever I'm doing. And then I think grief and sorrow really hit me when I made Myopia. I was making music alone sitting in a little box by myself, and when you’re zoned out in your loneliness it hits you very hard, particularly when it’s someone so close that you’ll never going to see again. Even though this loss made the whole writing process difficult, it was also inspiring: I was trying to work by pitching down my voice again, like I've done with Familiar, to represent this feeling of an undercurrent of voices, people, spirits and characters who are part of our lives, but fade at some point. You can feel their presence in a way, and I was trying to represent that sound-wise and lyrically, endlessly experimenting with both.

What have you learned about your music over the years?
Well, I've realised there's a power in being able to do it on your own. So, of course, you never do anything really alone, which is also an illusion, but this thing of working intuitively with the process and not splitting it too much up into parts is something I learned a lot. I think has been working for me and makes it interesting for me to go back to it as kind of my own technique of making music.

And then in terms of next projects, you said you're working on new music, right?
Yes, I’m working on a new album and it’s feeling incredibly cathartic, yet again. And I’ll tell you: there’s something about the brain that believes that you've finished the process, but there’s a punchy beat that keeps pulsating inside, so now I'm like [pauses momentarily…] well, maybe I shouldn't give away too much.

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William Fan - Interview

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William Fan
Crafting Futures

written Alban E. Smajli

William Fan is scripting a new narrative in modern design, fusing his rich cultural heritage with an avant-garde approach to fashion. His designs emerge as an eloquent dialogue between architectural rigor and fluid dynamism, boldly questioning the industry's entrenched norms.

With each collection, Fan weaves together Asian heritage and European design sensibilities, crafting a sartorial rebellion that defies traditional boundaries and celebrates sustainability. Through his latest endeavors, Fan explores themes of gender fluidity and inclusivity, pushing the boundaries of conventional fashion. Fan's staunch commitment to using dead-stock materials and partnering with family-run businesses underscores his devotion to ethical fashion practices. This journey sets a bold new standard for what it means to be a designer today but also cements Fan’s status as a visionary and a profound storyteller in the ever-evolving fashion landscape.

William Fan
seen by Clemens Poloczek

“I feel the most empowered when I work close to my heritage because it feels the most authentic. The many travels to Hong Kong influenced my perspective on beauty, craftsmanship, and tradition. I look for the balance between Asia and Europe in every season.”

William Fan speaks with Alban E. Smajli
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

Alban E. Smajli
William, your journey in fashion has been inspirational and transformative. Could you share how your cultural heritage influences your design philosophy and how it has evolved over the years?
William Fan
When I started my brand, and also during my studies, I wanted my collections to be personal and close to my identity. I feel the most empowered when I work close to my heritage because it feels the most authentic. The many travels to Hong Kong influenced my perspective on beauty, craftsmanship, and tradition. I look for the balance between Asia and Europe in every season. In the beginning, the contrasts were more hard and visible. Nowadays, it has become a grey zone where you can hardly see the lines. It's more diffused now, like we work on the theme of unisex. You hardly notice which gender it's meant to be.

In your creative process, how do you enter a state of flow or "trance" to conceptualize and bring your visions to life?
I like to build up a storyline. At first, we started with a party night, 'THE DAY AFTER' came as a consequence. Then we had an afternoon in Chinatown and ended up in a karaoke bar. You know, it’s almost like a biographical film book; I try to visualize every occasion.

Now we've entered the 'CEREMONY' era, which is the current collection. Every season has a theme, and from that feeling, we create a full-vision world. From the set design to the music, we want to escape with our community and dive into 15 minutes of dreaming.

Your designs are known for their unique blend of architectural precision and fluidity. How do you balance these elements, and how has this signature style evolved in your SS24 collection?
I like to think about a functional wardrobe with a twist—things you can wear and be real about. Our garments are built to function and always have a little twist in color, texture, and material. I think clothing needs to move and flow and give the customer enough space between the body and the garment itself. I’m not a big fan of a very tight fit. If so, it’s knit where you still have the stretch element. I like to empower with simplicity and precise tailoring. Sometimes more formal, sometimes more playful. This season was a lot about textures and fabrics. The colors were mainly inspired by the LGBTQI+ Flag, which is mainly represented in monotone, single-color block looks. Furthermore, we questioned how we dress for ceremonial occasions and which general rules are given.

Can you give us a glimpse into the making of the SS24 collection? What were the key inspirations, challenges, and breakthrough moments during its development?
The SS24 collection was named 'CEREMONY,' and it's all about the special days we celebrate in our lives. Big Birthdays or Weddings. I got married myself in 2022 and was quite critical of what you have to do and all the rules you need to follow. We started researching Asian and European traditions—for example, for marriage. The red wedding in China and the white wedding in Europe. I wanted to be inclusive and make a statement through the rainbow color flag from the LGBTQI+ community. I wanted to put a sign out that everybody should have the same rights to celebrate, for example, a wedding independently of your sexuality. I gave a male model the veil or the final bride look a black short-sleeve tuxedo with feathers. For me, it felt very adult and emancipated.

Sustainability is a critical conversation in fashion today. How are you integrating sustainable practices into your work, particularly with the SS24 collection?
We work exclusively with dead-stock materials. I like that way of using non-wanted resources and having a limited choice. That also means that most of the products are limited in their availability. All the manufacturers I am working with are visited personally a few times a year. I'm lucky to build up great relationships with family-owned businesses.

Everyone is very innovative when developing new styles. We don’t overproduce our products, and we never go on sale. I want to create a value that is hopefully long-lasting and sustains many trends and decades.


Reflecting on your career, who has been your most significant mentor, and what was the most valuable lesson you learned from them?
I had many people supporting me from the beginning. To be honest, I would say my parents. They always taught me to be bold and proud, regardless of where and who you are at the moment. I always keep saying: Fake it till you make it. This helped me through many moments :)

“I feel privileged to be able to have the runway medium and the city of Berlin, which offers so many monumental spaces. From the TV Tower to the Underground, I've tried all levels in Berlin to express my emotions through many spectacular locations.”

William Fan speaks with Alban E. Smajli
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

Fashion shows can be mesmerizing, almost trance-like experiences for the audience. How do you aim to evoke this sense of immersion and emotion in your runway presentations?
I feel privileged to be able to have the runway medium and the city of Berlin, which offers so many monumental spaces. From the TV Tower to the Underground, I've tried all levels in Berlin to express my emotions through many spectacular locations. I love to tell a story when it comes to runway presentations. Mostly, I'm looking for a space that has a certain power and an interesting history to tell. I also like to work with all senses. The moment you come into the venue, you will immediately experience a certain smell, texture, or lighting. Then the music starts, and I have 15 minutes to tell the concept of more than 6 months of intensive work.

From all the pieces you've created for the SS24 collection, is there one that stands out to you as a personal favorite or holds a special meaning? If so, why?
I’m a big fan of the 'Are you a friend of Dorothy?' jumper. A "friend of Dorothy" (FOD) is a euphemism for a gay man, first used in LGBT slang. Stating that, or asking if someone is a friend of Dorothy, is a furtive way of suggesting sexual orientation while avoiding hostility. I like the way to use historical references to hopefully remember we never need to talk in euphemisms again to express our sexuality.

What's next for William Fan? Are there any new projects, collaborations, or directions you're particularly excited about exploring in the near future?
Many new product groups will be added, and our new gift shop 'FAN PLAZA' just opened its doors a few months ago. We now have spaces for new visuals in partnership with artists, partners, and friends. I like the idea of bringing networks together that share the same love for small details and art.

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Fernando Lindez - Interview

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Fernando Lindez
Coming of Age

written Chidozie Obasi

Fernando Lindez is a bona fide heartthrob: He’s the kind of person who doesn’t wake up in a bad mood, and when he picks up the Zoom call to speak to me, he’s already in good spirits, laughing charismatically between sips of water.

Throughout our conversation, Lindez strikes as someone who is both insightful and honest, whether we’re discussing his wildest dreams - having been an aficionado of the movie industry for years, he believes in the power of community culture as a weapon of growth - or the challenges of being in the public eye from a young age. “I honestly never liked being in front of a camera and actually hated it!” He exclaims, cheerfully, radiating emotion as you’d expect from a man whose career basks in the limelight from iconic appearances in the world’s leading runways to iconic series such as Elite. He isn’t all sunshine and light though: Lindez revealed some of his most challenging experiences, but it was his own insecurities that helped him find common ground in life and in the characters he played. Wielding a coming of age cast, including the likes of Mirela Balic, Ivan Mendes and Nadia Al Saidi, his role in Elite has been making serious waves. From his initial career dabs, and living up to popular expectations, to mental health – we dug deep.

FERNANDO LINDEZ wearing
total look VERSACE

LE MILE Magazine
TRANCE Issue, No. 36 Cover Fernando Lindez
wearing MOSCHINO

“I honestly never liked being in front of a camera and actually hated it! But now that I've seen all the videos or the episodes, it's funny to remember everything that I did in that project.”

Fernando Lindez speaks with Chidozie Obasi
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

Chidozie Obasi
With everything that has happened over the years, have these times of uncertainty affected your identity in a way?
Fernando Lindez
I think this period was a great one for me, particularly because I had the chance to be involved in projects where I learned a lot from my partners, from the directors I met and the people I had the chance to work with. I think it affected me in a positive way and made me grow as a professional, particularly as an actor. Obviously the pandemic crisis badly affected the film industry and the fashion sector too, but I feel like it's slowly getting better.

How did you get into fashion?
It was all pure casualty! I honestly never liked being in front of a camera and I actually hated it. But it all started around 2016 or 2017, with no social media. I remember a friend of mine posted a photo with me on Instagram and an agent from Uno Models here in Spain saw that picture, and then he reached out to my friend.

What was your wildest dream as a kid?
When you're a kid, it's difficult to have only one: I wanted to be a lot of things. I wanted to travel all over the world to record and talk about nature. And of course, the thing about acting was surely more in my mind than modeling when I was younger. I really liked movies, and became passionate about the film industry from early on. So I always thought about becoming a great actor.

Would you say that your Spanish upbringing has influenced you in your career in a way?
No, I don't think so. I move by my personality, what I learn from the people I’ve met, from the things I experience in life and work.
Obviously, I know where I come from and I really appreciate my culture: It’s one of the best in the world for me. But I'm always open to listening to other cultures, to learn from other people and I don't think I'm attached to just being Spanish I always like to grasp aspects from other realities: I think it's good to open your mind in that way.

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team credits
seen PAOLO BARRETTA
fashion director CHIDOZIE OBASI
style editor DENNIS CAPPABIANCA
grooming ANNA PELLEGRINI
light assistant LORENZO OGLIALORO

“I think that when you are in a bad position and when you are feeling bad, you just have to say it. And you have to know when to stop.”

Fernando Lindez speaks with Chidozie Obasi
LE MILE Magazine TRANCE, Nr. 36

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trousers VALENTINO

Starting from fashion, you've also transitioned into the film industry with various roles. So how did it all begin?
So it all started at the same time, both modeling and acting. I remember when I started in fashion, they also called me for an audition for a TV Show. I didn't even have a lot of experience into the acting industry. But now that I've seen all the videos or the episodes, it's funny to remember everything that I did in that project, which was my first one. And I only have happy memories about it. After that, I discovered I could act and I was able to do it. I wanted to learn more, so I got into acting in schools to learn more about this practice, and I'm still doing it. I think it's a profession where one is always learning.

And then what would you say that was your hardest role to ever take as an actor?
I think on Escándalo, which is a Spanish TV show. For me, it was very hard because it was my first big project as a main character. It was also a character who experienced a lot of difficulties during the story and with a really big internal problem. He had a lot of traumas from the past, so for me it was difficult to find the way this character was living with how he reacted to all the people he was having relations with during the show. It was my first time doing sex scenes too, a very hard pick for me. But, you know, it was great because I had the chance to work with Alexandra Jimenez, who is a really good actress here in Spain: she was very professional, a really good partner.

And then in terms of the outside pool of people, have you ever felt pressured to be anyone else that maybe you were not feeling quite close to in the film industry or in any roles that you took on as an actor?
Not yet, but I think as an actor, if I take a role or a character it's because I really want to do it and because I feel like I can be that person.

For example, in Elite, at the beginning, I was a bit afraid because I was playing a homosexual character. I’m not, so I wanted to hide that. However, I didn't want people to see a heterosexual guy playing as a gay actor, but I had Omar, which is a very close friend of mine, who was always supporting me and telling me how to move, how to speak, how to react to things in a way that I don't usually do. And that also helped me a lot. But it was something that was extremely interesting to me. Of course, I put some things from my own, from Fernando to Joel (the character in Elite), but it's a mix of everything that pushed me further to grow.

Would you ever consider going into production or directing?
I mean, right now, I would say no. Because I'm focusing on my acting career and I feel like I have so many things to learn, so many things to improve. I like the job as a director more than a producer. But I will see in the future. For the moment, what I want to put my focus on is acting.

How do you feel projects like Elite have developed you as an actor or just as a creative in general?
It's been almost one year and a half of filming: we filmed two seasons, and especially in the last one, my character had a lot of weight. For me, it was more difficult than the one we filmed before. And now that it’s been produced, I can say it was a big challenge for me because I did things that I never did before. I learned a lot from that and from my partners. It was a really, really good experience for me, which I’m grateful for.

What would you say is the biggest thing that you've learned from this experience?
Compañerismo! Being together. We were a big group of actors and actresses. So yeah, I would say working on a team. The power of collaboration and of being together, and also crafting a good relationship with your partner for me, it was the most important thing because we were always helping each other. And as an actor, I think it's very important to be always open to help others. Because if you help others, they will help you.

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And what were the most difficult and challenging ones that you navigated when you were both in fashion and also now as an actor?
I had those complex moments. Especially, I remember, after the pandemic: a period where I really struggled with nutrition. I wasn’t in a good position, mentally. So I had to take a break to focus on myself, on my body, and on my mental health. I think that when you are in a bad position and when you are feeling bad, you just have to say it. And you have to know when to stop. You have to know your limits, and it's important to know yourself and to know where those limits are. Nowadays, I like to take care of my mental health: I go to therapy here in Madrid, teamed with sports. Together, these habits help to maintain a good mental and emotional balance.

Would you ever consider going into production or directing?
I mean, right now, I would say no. Because I'm focusing on my acting career and I feel like I have so many things to learn, so many things to improve. I like the job as a director more than a producer. But I will see in the future. For the moment, what I want to put my focus on is acting.

And in terms of social media and your image, you've become a mega star since Elite. How do you cope with the public, and how does bad and good criticism affect your mental health?
I always try to put limits on my social media, as I only have Instagram.
But, I'm also someone who doesn't like to show a lot of my intimate persona on those platforms. I feel a bit afraid, I have to be honest, of showing my life and talking to people on there. Because of the the public opinion which can demonise or categorize you in a bad way.

What is next for you?
I want to move to New York for a couple of months, I will see! don't know when I will move to that place, and I don't know when I want to leave. But yeah, I want to go there and, you know, continue modeling there in the States as well and grow as an actor and as a person.

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Journey of Hope - Documentary

Journey of Hope
A Mosaic of Dreams & Resilience in Mumbai

written Alban E. Smajli

Capturing a raw confluence of art and historical epochs, Journey of Hope sheds light on the fierce spirit of those who dared to dream beyond boundaries.

Amesh Wijesekera and Shetty Karthik, a trailblazing designer-photographer duo, present 'Journey of Hope'—a visceral photo narrative inspired by the bold escapades of young South Indian boys carving out new destinies in Mumbai's pulsating heart, drawing from the spirit of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

The vibrant backdrop of Mumbai's historic Bandra district encapsulates the poignant transition from traditional innocence to cosmopolitan agility. As the sun dips below the horizon, each frame bathed in the golden hues of dusk tells a story of change, challenge, and ultimate triumph. On his first journey through India, Amesh channels a fresh perspective into a raw exploration of identity and belonging. Mumbai's air is thick with the aroma of spices and the cacophony of bustling streets, creating a sensory collage that blurs the lines between foreign and familiar. Amidst this overwhelming mix, Amesh crafts a narrative of homecoming, finding connections in the chaos.

The fashion narrative strikes with undeniable force. Traditional South Indian silhouettes, once tethered to the looms of rural artisans, transform into modern masterpieces under Amesh's deft hand. Artisanal knitwear, crochet, and handwoven textiles from Sri Lanka punctuate the global fashion discourse. This sartorial evolution transcends mere display, encapsulating the adaptive journey of these young pioneers. Each piece, infused with their heritage, tells a story of cultural fusion and expanding horizons.

team credits

seen + creative SHETTY KARTHIK
stylist + designer AMESH WIJESEKERA
models NASIRUDDEEN RAVUTHAR + PRATIK KUMBHAR + KAVIRAJ + ANKITH

(c) Shetty Karthik & LE MILE, 2024

Ginny on Frederick - Interview

Tiny Galleries
REJIG: Ginny on Fred
Ginny on Frederick, London

written Tagen Donovan

Traditional gallery settings have become even more unattainable than ever before. In its place is a burgeoning mecca of alternative-everyday spaces, seamlessly forging art integration into daily life, while expanding outreach and accessibility within its locale.

As we navigate the transition beyond the homogenised landscape of white walls, high ceilings and intimidating invigilators, a newly emerged resistance movement is taking a stance.

This movement spurs a community-based approach to showcasing art. In the last decade, artists and curators have hit the ground running in developing environments that situate themselves in active, working establishments ranging from supermarkets, pubs, salons - and even public toilets.

Presenting art in unconventional spaces is nothing new. Gallerist Gavin Brown notoriously staged his first exhibition in obscure locations such as his Upper West Side apartment. The exhibitions were then displayed in office cubicles in Manhattan and in a room at the Chelsea Hotel. In 1974, the curator Harald Szeemann created a small exhibition about his grandfather, who was a hairdresser, in his apartment in Bern. And for a brief time during the 1980s, Hans Ulrich Obrist ran a gallery in his kitchen, inviting artists such as Fischli and Weiss to show their work there.

Ginny on Frederick Gallery
seen by Stephen James

exhibition
Emily Pope, Poison Pen

Ginny on Frederick Gallery
seen by Stephen James

exhibition
Eva Gold, The Last Cowboys

Adapting to change is an innate quality within art communities, and it’s often where innovation occurs. 2023 has seen the entire world adapt after COVID-19 engulfed our lives for three years. Leaving in its wake the aftermath of an economic downturn onset by the transition of Brexit and the emergence of a war in Eastern Europe. As we weathered through a temporal loop, the once 24/7 energy of the cultural industry evaporated. However, hope rose from the ashes.

Unified by a sense of urgency to reinvigorate the artistic landscape and ultimately interrupt the migration of cultural practices to the internet, a rebirth pioneered by a DIY spirit would see the championing of philanthropic initiatives with a deep sense of community unfold. Amid this defining moment, independent galleries were once again able to flourish - albeit with a twist of unconventionality.

The audacity to stray from convention is radical in itself. As independent galleries populate non-traditional spaces, an overdue revision of principles has gripped cities across the globe. Navigating the landscape unbound by formal institutional structures Recent adversity has created space for the underrepresented and in turn, this has steered the contemporary art world into fresh territory far removed from stale bureaucracy. In this exciting leap, contemporary gallerists are afforded shape-shifting ability as they re- establish the core nurture between the artist, curator and audience.

Freddie Powell, a London-based gallerist has embraced this newly developed approach. Following his graduation in 2016 from the Rhode Island School of Design, Powell's first curatorial venture came to fruition in the form of a medieval- themed motel in Massachusetts. Unknowingly paving the way for future liaisons in non-traditional locales. While in New York's LES, Freddie frequented shop-turned-gallery spaces such as Derosia, JTT and Chapter. Engineering an artistic sensibility inspired by such galleries. Powell later returned to London with the intention of creating a similar environment that embraced curatorial challenges. In 2020, Powell reached a pivotal moment in his career.

Ginny on Frederick Gallery
seen by Stephen James

exhibition
Eva Gold, The Last Cowboys

Ginny on Frederick Gallery
seen by Stephen James

exhibition Racheal Crowther, Qualified to Care

Ginny on Frederick Gallery
seen by Stephen James
exterior view

This was when the opportunity arose to repurpose a site adjacent to a disused Hackney railway arch on Frederick Terrace. In the unforeseen advent of COVID-19, the space shuttered due to mandatory restrictions. Lockdown provided an abundance of time to think, and the occasional jaunt out of the house. Stumbling across a vacant sandwich shop with signage above the doorway still intact: ‘Sunset Sandwich Bar II: Hot & Cold Food to Take Away’. This would be a defining moment for Powell. He knew then and there that this pocket-sized space would be the making of Ginny on Frederick. Kicking off his first show with Jack O'Brien in September 2021.

Offering a sense of promise and support remains the core principle of Ginny on Frederick. With less elbow room for young artists to thrive due to art council cuts and an industry largely run on nepotistic connections, the door of opportunity remains small for most. Powell has recognised this issue and has devised a programme that offers a platform for early- career artists to showcase experimental bodies of work, all while operating in a prime London location, a move simply unheard of in today's runnings of bluechip galleries. In bridging the gap for a new wave of practitioners to organically build up their trade, it’s safe to say that alongside Powell and his contemporaries - a renewed sense of hope has emerged within the underground art scene. Formulating a collective ecosystem that works on symbiosis rather than competition. Powell's mentorship provides value to artists outside of monetary promise. By co-creating environments beyond the mega-gallery trap, Ginny on Frederick ensures longevity in an ever-changing landscape.

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Studio GdB - Interview

.aesthetic talk
Studio GdB
Transforming Clay Tiles into Art

written Benjamin Schiffer

Tiles are rarely the first object you notice when entering a room. Not so with the designs of Studio GdB - the Dutch design studio makes clay tiles the absolute center of attention.

The two founders and former graphic designers Gilles de Brock and Jaap Giesen challenged the status quo within the tile industry after realising that their ideas could not be translated with any of the conventional methods out there. Consequently, the duo created their very own custom digital printer allowing for a computer-controlled application of liquid glazes. The results are vibrant, unique and customizable tiles in a range of uplifting colours and extraordinary patterns.

Studio GdB
Gilles de Brock + Jaap Giesen

“There was never really a particular reason or planning behind working with tiles. It was more or less the instant idea ´Let's make tiles´. Apparently, we both thought that this was a really good idea.”

Jaap Giesen speaks with Benjamin Schiffer
LE MILE Magazine ISSUE, Nr. 35

Benjamin Schiffer
Your backgrounds are similar, right? Tell us about how you both met.
Jaap Giesen
We met in graphic design school eight years ago and since then our friendship has matured.
After that we decided to do an internship in Antwerp together, we moved there together. Gilles decided to keep on studying in Den Haag, so I went to Rotterdam. Luckily, the two cities are not too far apart from each other, so we got to meet every weekend.

When did you develop your first interest in interior design?
JG
We are both trained graphic designers and I started to grow a great interest in vintage furniture design. Gilles was more interested in technology and building machines. Looking at it now, it is the perfect collaboration and we found a middle way bringing together contemporary designs and technology.
Gilles de Brock
There was never really a particular reason or planning behind working with tiles. It was more or less the instant idea ´Let's make tiles´. Apparently, we both thought that this was a really good idea.

…and you successfully found your niche in the market. Congratulations!
JG
All by accident though! It started as a blind passion. Once the business started developing, our fascination also grew and we became very dedicated.
GdB
During the process, we developed an entrepreneurial understanding. We were always self-employed before. You are not really a business owner then. If you want to sell a product it will have to entail certain qualities and all these qualities that we needed were just there. We could pretend that it was a super calculated move and that we are very business-savvy. If it did not work out, we´d probably still do it, but be broke. We were lucky that everything worked out.

JG: There were surely many obstacles that we needed to overcome. Tiles are very heavy, so the question arose on how we would ship them around the world without breaking. Luckily, we got to solve most problems. At the beginning we did not think everything through. Youtube tutorials definitely helped us a lot in the beginning! We did not really have people that had the level of expertise that we wished for. We still do not know much about ceramic glazes, everything is more or less a trial and error procedure that takes time.

When did you realise that conventional methods would not work for your ideas?
JG
When Gilles was working as a graphic designer for a client, he wanted to print some ceramic goods.
GdB
In an arts and crafts store we saw these beautiful glazed samples. We just thought that it would be enough to use those ceramic glazes, but it turned out to be much harder than we thought. We quickly found out that what we had in mind was not realisable with the conventional methods. That's when we had to come up with our own.

I could personally scroll through your Instagram feed forever. The number of colour and pattern combinations seems infinite. Which designs are particularly difficult or impossible to realise?
GdB
We definitely have tiles that are hard to produce, but we don´t put those on Instagram, because then everybody would ask for those. We have a set infrastructure of production, therefore experimenting within that system is not the easiest and not the most efficient. Certain things just do not work in it. This does not necessarily mean that they are objectively more complicated, they just do not fit into the regular production line. It also does not mean that they won't become available at a later point. For now, we want to keep things simple and organised.


Do you guys have a personal favourite colour/pattern combo?
GdB
It's so funny, it is always the designs that we put on Instagram that get the least response. Everybody just seems to like the same patterns. It's not like we don't like them, but it's comparable to listening to the same song over and over again.
JG
I personally love the classic striped patterns with the moody colours. Everybody seems to love the rain and the marble pattern. At this point we start curating some designs a bit more carefully, combining different tiles together.

I assume there are little to no marketing budgets at this point. How do you get your product out there?
JG
We indeed have no marketing budgets. The only thing we do is post things on Instagram. Maybe we will spend money on marketing in the future. For now, what comes in through this organic method, we are fully booked. We never needed to invest in proper marketing - this is an incredible luxury. As soon as we were ready to manufacture the tiles, we put them on Instagram and people started to immediately order them - it sounds almost too good to be true.

(c) John Tods

“In an arts and crafts store we saw these beautiful glazed samples. We quickly found out that what we had in mind was not realizable with the conventional methods. That's when we had to come up with our own.”

Gilles de Brock speaks with Benjamin Schiffer
LE MILE Magazine ISSUE, Nr. 35

Which artists or artistic epochs inspire you?
JG
Sean Scully! He is the best!
GdB
He makes nice paintings with interesting colour combinations.We are inspired by some of the Dutch designers who also have innovative ways of production. It is less their outcome, but rather their principle of creating machines to do what has not been done before.

I assume your bathrooms and kitchens are also tiled with your own designs. How do you decide which designs can move into your homes?
JG
I have to ask the wife! I prefer the more classic styles with a modern interpretation and more muted colours.
GdB
To be honest, I have a hard time choosing, even though my kitchen actually needs some tiles. It is scary to put tiles in my own house, I might grow too tired of them too quickly.

In what way do you consider your work approach typically Dutch?
JG
t´s very straightforward. If we decide on doing something, we are going to make it work and we are going to make it fast.

Let's talk about interior trends in general. What trend do you think we'll see everywhere next year?
JG
I think that things can be a bit more fun, less serious. Warmer and brighter colours could be a thing.

Where would you like to see your tiles?
GdB
At the very beginning we wanted to do tiles for metro tunnels and hotel lobbies. I guess that this is still the goal. Those metro stations in NYC seriously need renovation. What we also learned is that you can actually use tiles on the exterior of buildings such as facades.
JG
Yes, having tiles on a skyscraper would be amazing! Very high on our priority list.

What advice would you give to someone who is seeking to make a career from their creativity?
JG
Commit to one thing and keep on doing it very well!

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all images (c) Studio GdB