Sofia Lai - Interview

.aesthetic talk
SOFIA LAI
*Out of Body

written + interview Hannah Rose Prendergast

This is not a missing-person case. Sofia Lai's sculptures are placeholders for strangers and loved ones alike. Constructed from memories of yesterday and yore, the Italian artist has an eerily complete way of collapsing time.

After relocating to London in 2015, Lai realized nothing makes you feel more unseen than moving to a megacity. So, she decided to induce moments of deja vu or the already-seen through assemblage. It’s a bonding experience that is both traumatic and joyful, a little like the pile of clothes on your chair that comes to life in the dark.

As a stylist, Lai’s shapes are less haphazard and more thoughtfully layered to reflect human diversity. You can’t walk around in someone’s skin, but Sofia Lai’s sculptures will get you pretty close.

Sofia Lai

“The notebook I carry with me contains all my dreams, nightmares, thoughts, to-do lists, and scribbles. It is everything that goes through my mind that I wish to look back on one day.”

Sofia Lai speaks with Hannah Rose Prendergast
for LE MILE Issue N3. 37 - AGE OF CHANGE

Hannah Rose Prendergast
What was your introduction to the arts as a child?

Sofia Lai
The arts have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember. Throughout my childhood, the arts helped me to express myself and my worldview. Craft allowed me to explore my creativity and create something tangible that words alone could not.

You’re originally from Florence, Italy, but you moved to London in 2015. How did your sense of place develop over time? When did you start to feel grounded?

Sense of a Place is an ongoing project. My definition of groundedness changes day to day based on how I get to know the world and those around me. The place I live is not central to it; it is the people I live with, how I feel, and the appreciation of everyday life. Most days, I do not feel grounded anywhere, and this is what my practice revolves around – the feeling of discomfort that reverts to something negative and then towards something positive in a way that allows everyone to discover and reevaluate what matters in life.


Could you walk me through your sculpting process? Do you always cast your body as the mold?

My creative process starts with daily notes about how I feel and what I see. The notebook I carry with me contains all my dreams, nightmares, thoughts, to-do lists, and scribbles. It is everything that goes through my mind that I wish to look back on one day.

These could be keywords that refer to abstract experiences, such as seeing a stranger talking on the phone or noticing the distinctive shape of a bag hanging on a tree. Sometimes, those notes stay in my head for months without making sense before I can translate them into tangible concepts and elements such as sculptures. I start with my own body as a known tool. My ability to put myself into works created by others is what makes me an artist.

What is the lifecycle of one of your sculptures? Do you ever re-use them?

It depends on the sculptures and how I view them. Because my creative process is deeply rooted in my surroundings, I sometimes cut some of the sculptures and reuse them in a new way. Similarly, the clothes vary depending on the type of character and identity I want to create.

What is important about the presentation of these pieces? For example, you use a hanger sometimes to set things off.

I am interested in forming an identity through specific shapes and volumes created by posing and outfits. Finding the right objects and garments took me some time to accomplish. I use hangers rather than very heavy sculptures that stand alone because I'm trying to replicate the softness and swiftness of specific movements I have in mind for that character.

How do you know that your character has the right outfit?

Having no specific method of knowing when the outfit is right, I know by seeing and incorporating clothing elements reminiscent of something or someone for each sculpture.

How does having insomnia inform the nightmarish quality of your work?

I've always associated insomnia and nightmares with something negative and abnormal. Only in the last couple of years did I realize how unique and positive my "absurdity" could be. We all try to fit into a world that constantly scares and overwhelms us. It was about accepting myself for who I am and separating myself from the idea that people would not understand me if I were so unique. In our community, we all experience struggles in some form, and sharing our weaknesses with others helps us turn them into strengths. Art, for me, is an entity through which I can transfer my feelings towards others.

The bodies’ arresting posture reminds me a little of crime scene photos. Have you ever thought of this?

I did not! However, I love that everyone perceives my work differently and makes multiple connections. I'm seeking an emotional connection with the viewer, and I'm glad my sculpture can shape-shift depending on the person looking at it. The beauty of art is that it is subjective and open to interpretation. Every viewer brings their own experiences and emotions to the artwork, and no two people will have the same reaction.

How has sculpting made you appreciate your body?

Accepting my body is still a work in progress as it relates to accepting the complexity of myself as a human. The body is often the first tangible representation of who we are, and it can be difficult if the thoughts and feelings within are not fully accepted. Discomfort is not simply a negative component we all experience but also a strength that allows us to analyze our behavior and improve ourselves.

Part of your inspiration comes from the people you love, including your sister and grandmother. How have they supported your vision?

I've always been supported in multiple ways by all the people that I love. I have learned that you should be open-minded and able to see and understand the different ways people can share their support. Being grateful and appreciating what you have are key elements for artistic growth. I couldn't be me and do what I do without the support I have around me.

What next for you, Sofia?

I am working on a series based on my past, present, and future experiences. I hope to share this journey with everyone soon.

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“We all try to fit into a world that constantly scares and overwhelms us. It was about accepting myself for who I am and separating myself from the idea that people would not understand me if I were so unique.”

Sofia Lai speaks with Hannah Rose Prendergast
for LE MILE Issue N3. 37 - AGE OF CHANGE

Borgial - Interview

.aesthetic talk
BORGIAL
*Ancestral Echoes

written + interview Amanda Mortenson

Borgial’s art defies easy categorization, drawing from a rich well of personal and cultural narratives.

Born in Congo and now based in France, he channels his heritage and experiences into powerful works that resonate with ancestral spirituality and esoteric traditions. His sculptures and performances are engaging experiences, each piece serving as an archaeological dig into his African roots and the complexities of identity. A visceral exploration of memory, mythology, and the profound connections between the physical and spiritual realms, his work crafts a dialogue between past and present, inviting us to engage with the raw, elemental forces that shape our existence.

Through a unique blend of materials and symbolism, Borgial creates a space where art becomes ritual, a pathway to deeper understanding and transformation.

Borgial by Kaj Lehner

“My romance with art has always been a secret place for me to connect with the wholeness of my imagination, in the childish yet visceral idea of me being a wizard.”

Borgial speaks with Amanda Mortenson
for LE MILE Issue N3. 37 - AGE OF CHANGE

Amanda Mortenson
Hi Borgial, your work often involves the mythification of the individual, intertwining personal histories and broader cultural narratives. Can you elaborate on how your personal experiences and your African roots influence your art?

Borgial
I was born in Congo and left my country with my family due to the political instabilities resulting from the repercussions of civil war. As a migrant, being uprooted always leads to an identity crisis. My romance with art has always been a secret place for me to connect with the wholeness of my imagination, in the childish yet visceral idea of me being a wizard. Magic is, in fact, a huge part of my Congolese legacy. My grandfather transmitted spiritual gifts and practices to my dad, who then passed them on to me and some of my siblings.

This sense of spirituality is a significant part of my artistic practice. In my sculptural work, I try to recreate a certain archaeology of what remains of my Africanity (from both the collective and individual experience of it): all the memories, mythologies, and narratives that have taken shelter in my physical and etheric bodies throughout this cultural shift of moving to France. These sculptures and installations are the archaeology of my own history. Due to the Congolese civil war and political instabilities, we lost much of our past (photos, objects, and even memories often due to trauma)—therefore, the idea of archaeology is very important to me.

In my performance work, I engage in exercises (which I often consider rituals) to reconnect with emotions and a profound ancestral spirituality. I strive to reconnect my body with something greater than myself. Performance art serves as a form of personal therapy.

In your installations and performances, you use a variety of materials—each carrying specific symbolic weight. How do you choose these materials, and what do they represent in your work?

I started with fabric. I’ve always maintained a connection with the idea of fashion because it bridges my Congolese and French cultural experiences. It’s like a common thread linking these two narratives. In 2020, I created my first wooden sculpture piece named "Piedestal I." an elevating pair of sculptures and performative objects that embodies the boldness of self-expression. Carving and working with wood felt natural to me—it was organic, physical, and involved endurance and self-realization. With every small gesture I made, I felt as though I was unearthing the history of my ancestors and getting closer to a shared reality. Since then, I have chosen wood as my primary material for sculpture.


Having moved from Congo-Brazzaville to France, how do you balance or navigate the influences of these diverse cultural landscapes in your art?

It’s not easy. It’s a long process. I feel like the life of an artist involves a lot of doing, then questioning the deeper meaning of what we have just done—in order to refine and clarify future attempts, as we weave an entire narrative and identity through the process of art. The more I grow (both personally and in my practice), the more I strive to reach a universal form of expression. One that could blend all the cultures within me and be understood by anyone, regardless of their cultural background. An art that emanates something raw, primitive, and visceral.

This requires staying grounded and close to my origins while also being grateful for every expansion that life provides. This idea of elevation while constantly taking root was the concept behind my piece "Piedestal I." I am currently working on developing a series of these pieces, as I have realized that this theme will always be a part of my life.

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KAJ LEHNER

You have a keen interest in esoteric traditions such as alchemy and astrology. How do these disciplines inform your creative process and the thematic content of your work?

I’ve always believed in the magical realms of life—invisible forces and all. I think the deep study of these disciplines helps me bring rationality to my Piscean imagination (Pisces moon here). Alchemy, astrology, and numerology help me understand the subtleties of life and connect with ancestral knowledge. I delve into their iconography to find elements that can enhance my artistic vocabulary. It’s a lot of food for thought for me. It’snot my whole life, but it greatly nourishes my knowledge and comprehension of life. I’m sure it plays a bigger role on an unconscious level of my brain, but I haven’t fully understood it yet.

As an artist, what role do you think art plays in societal change? Do you believe art has the power to influence or reshape cultural or social norms?

I do believe so. In society, art represents the idea of freedom. It has the power to explore diverse realms and intertwine reality with imagination, thereby shaping new realities. To me, it’s one of the most powerful things. I also believe it has become more challenging since social media has gained so much influence on people's lives. It’s both a blessing and a curse.

I know there are many people out there using art to make the world a better place, and I’m very grateful to witness and be inspired by that. One of the latest inspirations I've found is Gilberto Gomes Leal, who explores movement as a powerful and healing tool for both the individual and the collective. I am very inspired by these people and initiatives.

How do you perceive the current shifts in our society? What changes are most significant to you personally or artistically?

Technology. Social media still represents a significant shift for me. I’ve always been quite mistrustful of it, yet it is a tool for promoting my art. I also see the way it impacts people’s mental health.

With the rapid changes and transformations happening today, how can your art contribute to or enhance the public discourse on these shifts?

I want my art to be a window through which we can inspire others to embrace freedom, both in art and spirituality. I also want it to reflect an idea of integrity, authenticity, and responsibility towards humanity and nature. My goal is to have a practice with zero negative impact on nature, one that can elevate minds and souls.

Let’s look forward, how do you see your artistic practice evolving? Are there new themes or mediums you are interested in exploring?

I’m curious about so many things, but I also want to build a career that is coherent, authentic, and meaningful. I want it to convey a comprehensive and unified message. I don’t know what the future holds for me, but I would love to expand my performance universe by traveling the world and, most especially, going back to Africa. There is so much more for me to see and do there. I also want to invite more performers into my work to learn through others and to inspire unity by intertwining bodies and their personal histories. Additionally, I love composing music, so I would really love for music to take a bigger space in my performative explorations. Let’s see! For the moment, I’m just very excited about all the good things that are happening. I’m very optimistic about the future.

What kind of impact do you hope your work will have on both current and future generations? How do you want to be remembered in the world of art and contemporary culture?

Wow. I don’t really know about that. I want my work to inspire an idea of peace and fluidity across genders and cultures. Ultimately, I want my art to tap into the essence of life. That’s my secret dream.

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.aesthetic talk VIVIANE SASSEN *Light, Color, and Identity

“I want my art to be a window through which we can inspire others to embrace freedom, both in art and spirituality, while reflecting integrity, authenticity, and responsibility toward humanity and nature.”

Borgial speaks with Amanda Mortenson
for LE MILE Issue N3. 37 - AGE OF CHANGE

Viviane Sassen - Interview

.aesthetic talk
VIVIANE SASSEN
*Light, Color, and Identity

written + interview Alban E. Smajli

Viviane Sassen’s work navigates the intricate dance between art and fashion, creating a visual language that is both bold and introspective.
Her mastery of color, light, and form captures moments of transformation, where the mundane transcends into the surreal.

DNA, from the series Lexicon, 2007
© Viviane Sassen and Stevenson (Johannesburg / Cape Town / Amsterdam)

Through a career spanning over three decades, Sassen has continuously pushed the boundaries of photographic expression, drawing from deeply personal experiences and universal themes. Her latest retrospective, "PHOSPHOR: Art & Fashion," offers a profound exploration of identity, intimacy, and the ever-shifting nature of reality, inviting viewers to engage with the complexities of the human experience.

“I hope my work contributes to dissolve the line between photography and ‘fine art’. To be able to move freely between the two is a great gift I cherish.”

Vivanne Sassen speaks with Alban E. Smajli
for LE MILE Magazine, Nr. 37, AGE OF CHANGE / 02/2024 Edition
— at foam amsterdam (Viviane Sassen - PHOSPHOR: Art & Fashion)

Self Portrait, 1990
© Viviane Sassen and Stevenson (Johannesburg / Cape Town / Amsterdam)

Dior, 2019
© Viviane Sassen and Stevenson (Johannesburg / Cape Town / Amsterdam)

Alban E. Smajli
Viviane, your work often blurs the boundaries between art and fashion. How does "PHOSPHOR: Art & Fashion" embody this fusion, and what new narratives are you exploring in your upcoming retrospective?

Vivanne Sassen
I hope my work contributes to dissolve the line between photography and ‘fine art’. I feel there’s definitely a wider acceptance when it comes to the merging of these different worlds; fashion, music, design, photography, art; especially in youth culture. But then again; that has been going on for a few decades now. And I don’t really see that many photographers pervade into the ‘serious’ fine art galleries; it’s still a hand full. To be able to move freely between the two is a great gift I cherish, it is also quite rare I realise. In PHOSPHOR I present my fashion photography simply as one of the chapters in my exhibition. I haven’t put an extra emphasis on it, other than placing it at the end of the show. The way I show my fashion images hasn’t changed; I made an installation with sound and mirrors - the images slowly passing-by, projected on the walls.

"PHOSPHOR" marks a significant homecoming for you at Foam Amsterdam. How has your artistic journey evolved since your first showcase, "Flamboya," in 2008?

Oh dear, the answer to that is so extensive, I’m not sure I can elaborate on that! I think if you look at the various projects I’ve done ever since Flamboya, you would see that there is so much variety - different territories I’ve explored. Both conceptual and visually, ranging from very abstract to very organic, from darkness to light, from experimental surrealist series to more documentary work. The essence is that I don’t want to hold myself back when it comes to exploring new territories within the photographic medium. I’m working with film, sound, texts, collage, paint.


In the AGE OF CHANGE (our next issue ́s theme, no. 37 (FW24), how do you see the role of art and fashion in shaping societal norms and challenging conventions?

I hope that in these often harsh times and political climate, people will still understand the importance of art as a catalyst for life, social issues, philosophical and even spiritual questions. I feel that in the digital age society hasn’t only become more dualistic and extremist, but also more homogenous and generic - which can be a great thread too.

Your photography is renowned for its vibrant use of color and surreal compositions. How do these elements convey the themes of transformation and metamorphosis in your latest exhibition?

I think this comes to a culmination in one of my latest series; Cadaver Exquis. They are based on the ‘exquisite corpse’ technique: a creative game that surrealists were fond of playing. Body parts are connected in ways that produce odd hybrid creatures. I used images from my own archive from various periods of time and cut them up, enlarged them to huge proportions and made collages with these elements. They appear to be floating on the wall - I freed them from the frame so to speak. I’ve always been very interested in the concept of transformation and metamorphosis. In my work the outside often depicts the inner process of transformation, and the surrealist nature of my work helps to visualise these often confusing processes.

Given the rapid changes in digital media and technology, how do you foresee the future of fashion photography evolving in the next decade?

I think technology will make it even easier in terms of making high-quality pictures, and I think there will be even more focus on moving image; still images will probably be subtracted from that. A.I. is another thing though. I think it’s too early to tell what it will mean for fashion photography, but I feel that it will change the industry profoundly. I do think there will still be the need for creative people with a good eye and a sensitivity.

Right now, all the AI images I see, don’t excite me very much; it is as if you can feel there is something missing; a soul. They look cold and fake; just as if someone used a new kind of filter. But still, if AI will evolve and become better, there will be a need for strong concepts (what do you feed the computer?) and strong editing. AI will undoubtedly become huge in commercial outings but I think it won’t be able to replace the need for strong story telling that brands need so desperately nowadays to connect with their customers. And simultaneously, people will keep on longing for ‘real’ things, the stuff that you can touch. I have been lucky to experience that defining moment in history when analog became digital. I’m not at all nostalgic about the analog process when it comes to shooting film or developing my own rolls or making hand-prints. I feel that the digital process doesn’t take away from the ‘magic’, like many younger photographers feel. Some people still think analog is ‘better’ which is nonsense. They show me a picture they made on an analog camera telling me ’they couldn’t have made this on a digital camera’ – but showing it to me on their iPhone.

"PHOSPHOR" dives deep into the intersection of art and fashion. Can you share some behind-the-scenes insights into the creative process and the challenges you faced while preparing for your exhibition?

It was just a hell of a job to edit the exhibition...! 30 years of work, two separate archives: the art and the fashion. Both analog and digital archives. It’s a matter of distilling an essence of your work, killing your darlings, and then finding out it might become too rigid so you bring back certain images that you dismissed in the first place. I was hoping to sort out and clean up my archive in the process / simultaneously, but that turned out to be too time-consuming. So I still need to do a thorough editing session.

As we navigate the AGE OF CHANGE, what message do you hope to convey to your audience through "PHOSPHOR," and how do you envision your work influencing future generations of artists and photographers?

Hmmm I think that is not for me to answer. As an artist you always hope to inspire others and to have a little life beyond your own borders in time, but it is a waste of time to think about it. We have no idea how our world will evolve, let alone to imagine if one’s work will still be relevant for future generations. But what encourages me now, is that there are many young creatives who tell me they are inspired and encouraged by my work NOW.

Looking back at your career, from "Flamboya" to "PHOSPHOR" what have been the pivotal moments of change for you as an artist, and how have they shaped your vision and approach to your craft?

I think the most profound moments have been a few key moments in my personal life that have set my creative processes in motion. I think of motherhood. Of loosing my father. Of traveling back to the village of my childhood in Kenya. I guess in my case, art follows life.

HCG, from the series Of Mud and Lotus, 2017
© Viviane Sassen and Stevenson (Johannesburg / Cape Town / Amsterdam)

Eudocimus Ruber, from the series Of Mud and Lotus, 2017
© Viviane Sassen and Stevenson (Johannesburg / Cape Town / Amsterdam)

“AI will undoubtedly become huge in commercial outings, but I think it won’t be able to replace the need for strong storytelling that brands need so desperately nowadays to connect with their customers.”

Vivanne Sassen speaks with Alban E. Smajli
for LE MILE Magazine, Nr. 37, AGE OF CHANGE / 02/2024 Edition

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Adidas x Pharell, 2017
© Viviane Sassen and Stevenson (Johannesburg / Cape Town / Amsterdam)

Saxon Brice - Interview

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SAXON BRICE
*From Renaissance to Reality

written + interview Jonathan Bergström

Saxon Brice is a Los Angeles-based multi-disciplinary artist whose work mixes classical painting traditions with contemporary topics, creating a dialogue between the past and present.

Brice’s practice spans oil painting, traditional draftsmanship, and digital media, focusing on portraiture that recalls the grandeur of the High Renaissance and Baroque periods. However, his subjects are not figures from ancient history but people from today, reinterpreted through modern ideas, myths, and the rapid technological changes around us.

In this interview with LE MILE Magazine, Brice discusses how his work has evolved, from combining traditional techniques with digital methods, to the ideas behind his solo show VIBE // SHIFT. He also discusses his continuing exploration of identity, mythology, and the surreal ways art, technology, and human nature intersect.

Saxon Brice
Madonna and Selfie, 2023
charcoal on paper

“The computer is an incredible tool, but the core of art, or at least my practice, will always be the struggle of the human hand manipulating a particular medium.”

Saxon Brice speaks with Jonathan Bergström
for LE MILE .Digital

Saxon Brice
MOYRA, 2024
Charcoal, sanguine and sepia conté, and gouache on paper
25.5 x 19.5 in

Saxon Brice
JESSI, 2024
Oil on canvas
40 x 30 in

Jonathan Bergström
You’ve worked with classical painting techniques and also embraced digital processes in your practice. How do these two approaches influence and complement each other in your creative process?

Saxon Brice
The computer is an incredible tool, but the core of art, or at least my practice, will always be the struggle of the human hand manipulating a particular medium. Like mp3 vs. vinyl, there’s a warmth and idiosyncrasy to the traditional exercise of art that you just can’t quite capture in digital. I tend to think that the two methods are working towards the same end goal from opposite directions. With traditional mediums and classical techniques you’re using this very real, cumbersome and sensuous material to finesse an alchemical illusion, whereas with digital you’re working backwards from something purely illusory trying to make it real. I’ve been experimenting with digital printing on top of traditional work to play with these questions, but I also love the flexibility of digital for compositional mockups and planning out pieces—change a color temperature or value on the fly, drop in a collaged element, move proportions around, etc.

You recently had a solo exhibition in Los Angeles titled VIBE // SHIFT. Can you tell us more about the exhibition and its central theme?

I’ve spent years since undergrad in relative obscurity, building my creative voice and technical skillset in the dark, so this show was kind of like a coming out party for me as a serious painter. Some broader ideas will be coming next, though the show was also a bridge for those. My friend Sean Monahan just released a follow-up to his 2021 viral essay “Anatomy of a Vibe Shift.” The new piece, “Vibe Shift America (boom boom beat doom)” is a searing account of the recent American presidential election. Whatever your feelings on the new political reality, it has become undeniable that we are shifting from one paradigm into something very different.

Growing up in the 90s, I feel like we’ve been living in Fukuyama’s “End of History” delusion my whole life, one that has taken on a very efficient and pragmatic but spiritually and poetically flat metaphysics. The works in VIBE//SHIFT were meant to be a gentle introduction to my feelings and beliefs about beauty and transcendence. My subjects are almost Jungian archetypes of our age: beautiful, self-consciously performative, and maybe a bit lost, but I want us to treat them seriously, so I felt I had to paint them seriously. I wanted to justify that struggle for something as fragile and precious as beauty, in a modern context that was sincere, rather than ironic or glib.


The paintings in VIBE // SHIFT are said to address ”an age where trends move the world faster than painting can catch up.” How do you view the role of slow, traditional techniques in today’s fast-moving, digital world?

Man, it’s tough. There’s a current trend of “fast art” in the gallery world—the necessity of turnover and feeding the beast has lent itself to a very particular type of painting. In the classical era, and even up until the mid-20th century artists might take years on a single masterpiece. Searching for the perfect gestural mark to describe the spirit of a thing, or the perfect color or texture to balance all the disparate elements of a painting into one perfect sensory experience. Now the demands of the market and its timelines put pressure on artists to constantly “execute” without much room for the trial and error inherent to a deep search and discovery. I think if we want those types of paintings to continue to be made, then we have to convince the market it’s in our collective interest as a civilization to make time for, frankly, monetizing these slower, deeper processes. I was painting a couple of the works for like a year and a half until I got them close enough to “right” that I felt they could be shown.

In addition to the paintings, VIBE // SHIFT also included live duels and performances. How do these interactive elements connect with the themes in your paintings?

The general idea was to create this liminal bridge between our physical space and the pseudo-feudal world of the paintings. The performances and medieval/gothic set-dec reflect my background in acting, fashion and art direction. Honestly, it was so refreshing for everyone to go along with something a bit silly and have a lot of fun. I love the art world, but we all know it can be a bit stuffy. I think the “Vibe Shift” is also in relation to encouraging physical community and unique experiences—IRL relationships, as it were—especially after Covid. I have to really hand it to In The Meantime, the event space and creative community I partnered with, for working with me to make it such a cool and unique experience.

The tension between “classical beauty” and “contemporary beauty” ideals seems central to your work. Do you see this tension as a form of critique or more of a celebration of the complexities of our current cultural moment?

I have to say, probably critical over celebratory. I think the tension between the two implicitly suggests that we don’t take beauty very seriously anymore, even if we’re more and more obsessed by a facsimile of it. I think to take beauty “seriously” you have to have quiet moments with it, you have to have deep and abiding reverence for it, not just the desire to possess it.

In terms of process, how much of your work is based on live sittings versus photo references or classical paintings?

While I was living and studying in Italy, we basically only did “sight-size” drawing and painting from life. The intensity of that practice, made my skillset grow like 10 years in one. However, back in LA, the subjects I was interested in weren’t professional models, and I couldn’t ask them to sit for 30-50 hrs anyway, so I adapted my process: still beginning with a live sitting and a conversation, but then multiple photoshoots as well photoshop mock ups as I add more invented or old masters-inspired elements.

The challenge then becomes to seamlessly integrate all these elements, to keep them feeling really alive, and not just “photo real.” They’re really not photo real at all, they’re some kind of hybrid between Classical Realism, Idealism, and my own kind of psychological portraiture. I hope it imbues them with a kind of spirit that is difficult to achieve when simply copying a photo.

Your portraits seem to immortalize contemporary subjects in a classical manner. What do you think this approach reveals about how we view modern identity and cultural change in relation to the past?

A lot has been said, and made, on the subject of “identity” in the last several years. Some good, some pretty dull. I think contemporary morays around identity tend to think of it as something obvious, immutable, largely external. The past, for all its faults, looked at identity as a bit more internal and full of contradictions.
That’s my favorite thing about people, discovering some aspect of them you least expect, exploding all of your preconceived notions about that human being or human beings in general. I tried to piece together this series of LA scenesters, hustlers and libertines from all over the modern “identity” spectrum. They all surprise you with their vulnerability, insight, generosity, or just good comedy about the world. I really respect that, and I wanted to elevate it to the kind of timeless humanism you see decorating the halls of great museums.

Saxon Brice
MAGDALENA (diptych)
Oil on wood panel, irrigation tubing, and maquette wire
62.25 x 51.5 in

“In the classical era, artists might take years on a single masterpiece. Now, the demands of the market put pressure on artists to constantly 'execute' without much room for trial and error.”

Saxon Brice speaks with Jonathan Bergström
for LE MILE .Digital

Having assisted artists like Doug Aitken and Jesper Just, how have these experiences influenced your personal artistic practice?

They both taught me so much about how to work with narratives thematically rather than literally as one would in TV or film. I think my time with them also relates directly to your question about the performative elements of my last show. Ever since early high school, I had all these interests—I kept bouncing around from music, to cooking, to martial arts, theatrical storytelling, and visual art. I think cutting my teeth with Doug and Jesper, as well as artists like Duke Riley, gave me this fantastic experience and showed me how all these interests could be pulled together into a larger, more operatic frame. Painting is just the beginning for me, especially after how well people responded to these larger elements in VIBE//SHIFT. I plan on slowly adding more objects and sound to my practice, possibly video, while continuing to play with performance and art direction.

When creating artworks for artists like Florence + The Machine, how does your creative process differ from the approach you take with gallery work?

With any commission work, you’re essentially realizing someone else’s vision. Florence + The Machine was actually submission-based, so I submitted, then I was accepted—done. But with a lot of the other commission work I’ve done over the years, a Katy Perry music video, album covers, or the paintings for movies and TV that I’ve done, I’m always painting as another artist. Sometimes I literally am producing the work of a fictional artist, and so there’s almost this roleplay or even character creation. I end up doing a lot of research, and, like an actor would, getting into the headspace of this character, their environment, their era, etc. There’s still me, of course. I have to believe they hired me because there was something in my work that they responded to, but it’s a very curated version of me.

You’re currently working on a new series titled Neo Spirito, that reinterprets the traditional Catholic art canon. What inspired you to explore this concept?

I’m not particularly religious, though as I get older, I find myself more and more open to these mysteries that I grew up being so cynical and dismissive of. I definitely didn’t grow up Catholic—my paternal grandfather was a very secular Jew, and I was baptized in a lovely but very “Jesus light” Episcopal church in LA.

However, I think this instinct goes back a long way. I recently discovered an old drawing I made in 10th grade of the creation of Adam, except in this version Adam’s outstretched gesture is mutating into a cybernetic arm, as if infected by the figure of God at his fingertip—an AI with its attendant angels. It made me laugh, I kind of surprised myself looking back at it. Whether you’re religious or not, I think these symbols are the oldest and deepest common language we have to describe what it means to be human.

They are the base of our metaphysics, at least in the western world, and for better or worse have been abandoned in droves over the last century. What better imagery, then, to juxtapose against the hyper-novel onslaught of humanity-disrupting technological evolution we’re currently facing?

In this series you’re drawing inspiration from figures like the Nephilim and conspiracy theories involving animal-human hybrids. How do these themes tie into your broader exploration of mythology and history in your work?

Myth is an intuitive, non-rational way of describing and understanding our world. There’s an interesting discussion taking place currently about the difference between factual and metaphorical truth—things that may not be literally true but true enough to our experience of the world, and therefore useful in surviving it.

In our highly rational age, I think many conspiracy theories sort of play that role. Some of course are useless and ridiculous, and those myths won’t survive long. But some, even if the details are wrong, are true enough that they hold memetic value to our understanding of an increasingly complicated and confounding world. Biblical creatures like the Nephilim may not actually be hiding at the core of the earth, but we have been developing genetic chimeras, like goats bred with spider DNA. Sounds pretty mythic to me.

Looking ahead, do you see the themes you’re exploring in these series continuing to evolve? What are the next steps in your artistic journey?

I see myself working through deeper and deeper ideas relating to Neo Spirito for a while and incorporating myths and philosophy from the classical period as well as the near east. I read about a new future-shock dystopian curiosity at least every month—from artificial womb labs the size of football stadiums, to gene splicing, to the creation of artificial stars. I’ve had these concepts building up in my head since around 2018, so I’ll definitely have a lot to chew on for the foreseeable near-term. After that, I don’t know, maybe I’ll start doing watercolors of peoples’ dogs…if we still have dogs.

Saxon Brice
BINARY STAR
Charcoal and cured digital print on paper
84 x 78 in

“Myth is an intuitive, non-rational way of describing and understanding our world—true enough to our experience to be useful in surviving it.”

Saxon Brice speaks with Jonathan Bergström
for LE MILE .Digital

Lolita Eno - Interview

.aesthetic talk
LOLITA ENO
*Soy un Escorpión

written + interview Grace Powell

“Let's talk DEEP,” Natalia Guzman, AKA Lolita Eno, DMs me late Saturday evening. The multi-hyphenate artist, celebrated for blending themes like animal vs. human, nature vs. digital, and philosophy vs. biology, serves as the digital experience's Mother Nature.

Amidst a world where her personal love life shifts between infatuation and heartbreak, Lolita Eno shares her insights on navigating this post-intense situationship era and how her profound understanding of sexual power shapes her artistic expression. Her work has captivated global audiences through exhibitions in Shibuya, Tokyo, Paris, Los Angeles, and Turkey, complemented by numerous solo shows in her home-city of Madrid.

Notably attracting the attention of cultural icons like Kanye West and fashion luminary Alexander Wang, she was also recognized by the European Institute of Design as a promising innovator in 2019 and honoured as a finalist for best digital art at the BMW Spain awards. Do we get deep? You be the judge of that!

(c) Lolita Eno

Talent BENDI GONZALEZ
Stylist STEPHANIA YEPES
Production PABLO MAS
Assistant STEVEN PANE
for RUI

(c) Lolita Eno

Talent TOCCORORO
Stylist STEPHANIA YEPES
Production PABLO MAS
Assistant STEVEN PANE
for RUI

“Love compels me to delve into my deepest emotions, confronting both vulnerability and strength. It’s natural, and nature is impassable.”

Lolita Eno speaks with Grace Powell
for LE MILE Magazine / AGE OF CHANGE Issue 37

(c) Lolita Eno

Talent MURIEL SEGUIER
Stylist Stephania Yepes
Production PABLO MAS
Hair GORKA LAKAN
Assistant BORJA LLOBREGAT

(c) Lolita Eno
for Alexander Wang

Grace Powell
For this interview, we’re delving into the themes of love and intimacy. How do these personal topics influence the art you are currently creating and sharing with the world?

Lolita Eno
Love, in its profound complexity, has become a central theme in my work. It compels me to delve into my deepest emotions, confronting both vulnerability and strength. Through this process, I discover more about myself and the world around me. Love, to me, is natural and nature is impassable.

Why is it important for you to speak on this now?

Recently, I experienced a powerful connection with someone that has now ended. I don't know what will happen in the future with us, the future does not exist right now. Of course, this person has inspired me and my work. My broken heart hurts, but not everything that hurts needs to have a bad ending. Feeling this is tough, but I'm learning, and I've already noticed changes in myself, which I find exciting. This emotional journey has fueled a creative process that reflects my personal growth and introspection.

Love (and heartbreak) are in many ways then charges for you, creatively?

Anything that changes me charges what I create. Creating art is my lifeline, and I'm currently processing what I'm going through —I hope somewhere interesting — All these tears will (re)shape me…I'm losing too much water.

…and vice versa, art too fuels these powerful feelings?

Without art I would slowly die of a sad heart. The love for creating keeps me alive. During a difficult time when I was on a path of self-destruction, creating and falling in love saved me. With whom I stayed for six years. If you are reading this, thank you.

What is the craziest thing you ever did for love?

Is there something crazier than love itself? “Non Voglio Mai Vedere II Sole Tramontare” by Oliver Leith, 12 Ensemble, Eloisa-Fleur Thom and Max Ruisi is how I felt when I was with him, when I was last in love.

Within love is intimacy and sex, how do these play a role within your artistry? 


Intimacy, in all its forms, continues to inspire my work, leaving behind a regenerated spirit that shapes my artistic expression.

Described as both “sexual” and "trippy”, you once said, “I love my vagina and my sexual energy. I believe in it”. What makes the vagina so powerful?


In this quote, I'm talking about the reproductive organ as a metaphor for creation ( and sometimes, this is not a metaphor at all!) For a long time I used to hate my vagina for the collateral implications it has. I discovered my vagina at a really young age, I think I was like 8 or so when I started realising that I had a power between my legs, a power that could be taken out of me.

(c) Lolita Eno
Talent TOCCORORO
Bag EVADE HOUSE

(c) Lolita Eno

Talent EVANGELINA JULIA
Production PABLO MAS
Hair GORKA LAKAN
Assistant BORJA LLOBREGAT

“I love my vagina and my sexual energy. It’s a metaphor for creation—and sometimes, not a metaphor at all.”

Lolita Eno speaks with Grace Powell
for LE MILE Magazine / AGE OF CHANGE Issue 37

How has your relationship to the vagina developed? It is not an area you shy away from in your art. 


Ever since I became aware of my vagina, it has been a constant mindfuck. At times, I have felt imprisoned by my own body, and have associated ‘freedom’ and ‘power’ with cocks. Even though I've always seen myself as a beautiful woman, and understood the power that holds, I have also felt weak and easy to take advantage of. In some ways I purposely refused to be protected, connecting masculine desire with the vulnerability of my body, putting myself in a position to be taken advantage of instead of staying in my own power mode. I have an intense sexual energy despite not being overtly sexual. I don't dress in a 'sexy' manner, haven't had many sexual partners, and rarely date—I'm not easily intrigued. I use this sexual energy in my photos, sometimes explicitly and sometimes not that explicitly …but it's always there, I just can't be any other way. Soy un escorpión.

The theme of the magazine is AGE OF CHANGE, which feels super relevant right now for you and your work! Do you enjoy change? 


Change brings forth a mix of emotions—fear, excitement, danger, and new horizons. It's unstable and lacks security, yet it's fun and appealing. I don't live a traditional life. All can be summed up in : ?????? ! !! ?.

I'm completely changing my life right now, moving to another continent and constantly bouncing between New York, Paris, and LA. It's addictive once you start; having family in these cities makes me feel incredibly lucky. I still have good friends in Madrid, but this lifestyle can be lonely. You have to be selective about who you spend time with, and sadly, you sometimes lose people you care about. Despite the drawbacks, I'd still choose this life.

Do you believe in destiny?


Yes, but not in a mystical sense. I believe our past experiences and qualities shape who we are today. It's like a series of events that fit together when you reflect on them. Surrendering control and allowing destiny to lead can make you feel like a philosopher, contemplating deeply on everything.

“Change is unstable and lacks security, but it’s fun, dangerous, and addictive. Once you start, you can’t stop.”

Lolita Eno speaks with Grace Powell
for LE MILE Magazine / AGE OF CHANGE Issue 37

credit for header image
(c) Lolita Eno

Talents MURIEL SEQUIER, EVANGELINA JULIA, MARTA OCHOA, NINA WASINSKI, CARMEN CANDELA, OTA ANDUIZA, NINA WADANAX, EMME MADDI, and MARINA JONE PODEROSO / Stylist STEPHANIA YEPES / Production PABLO MAS / Hair GORKA LAKAN / Assistant BORJA LLOBREGAT

Seth Howe - Interview

.aesthetic talk
SETH HOWE
*Instruments of Seeing

written + interview Kate Hoag

Seth Howe is a New York-based artist and architect whose multidisciplinary practice includes sculpture, works on paper, photography, video, and installation—all focused on exploring light, space, and perception.

Howe’s Stackworks series exemplifies these explorations, featuring alternating pieces of metal or wood that form minimalistic layered sculptures. Described by Howe as "instruments for seeing," these pieces invite viewers to move around them and reconsider how they experience the world.

In this conversation with LE MILE Magazine, Howe offers a closer look into his artistic practice, reflecting on his architectural influences, the evolution of his Stackworks series, and his ongoing exploration of perception and the act of seeing.

Seth Howe
Diamond Rotation Series

“My three-dimensional works are meant to act as 'lenses' or 'seeing devices' to look through, not as coded objects to look at.”

Seth Howe speaks with Kate Hoag
for LE MILE .Digital

Seth Howe
The Mechanism of Seeing, in Picturing Light at FIT
Photo courtesy of the artist

Seth Howe
seen by Peter Murdock

Kate Hoag
Your work spans a range of media, from sculpture to video to photography. Do these each act as a different form of expression?

Seth Howe
Everything starts in three dimensions, and my Stack structures are the source inspiration for all of my other work, including works on paper, photography, and video. The main focus of my art concerns perception and the human body in space, and how it is that we can understand and navigate through the material world. My three-dimensional work establishes a physical relationship with the body of the viewer, in real space and time, in an effort to highlight the ordinary experience of seeing. The two-dimensional work acts as an imprint or record of perceived moments over time, either as a sort of snapshot of the physical experience, or as simulations of that experience. I explore perception and the act of seeing in all of the different mediums, toggling back and forth to inform and strengthen my overall conceptual ideas.

You are also an architect. Could you tell us about your personal relationship with architecture versus fine art? Do you feel your architectural training influences the way you approach form and structure in your sculptural work?

My architectural training most definitely informs my artwork. I was trained in the modernist tradition as postmodernism began to infiltrate architectural design and the culture at large. It was an interesting time, as my upbringing and education embraced technological and scientific progress as a way to improve society, but of course underneath this rational worldview things were slowly being dissected and dismantled. I was always hyper-aware of my own physical presence and the relationship of my body to the environment. I think that’s why I was always fascinated with space and architecture. Through my architectural practice I came to question the systems and paradigms that make up the construct of our reality, and I turned to artmaking as a more facile way to investigate these matters. Despite this, I still use modernist materials and strategies in my artwork because those are the forms, materials, and notions of space that are intrinsic to how I see and know the world. They are the tools and materials that I’m comfortable working with, and ultimately the goal of my work in the physical realm is meant to point to a more metaphysical space, one that is not based in the physicality of art or architecture.

You often work in iterations. Could you walk us through your process of revisiting your work?

Everything originates from the Stackworks, using the conceptual notion of constructing a three-dimensional structure in the most efficient way possible, in this case an alternating stacked structure using identical repetitive parts. The original Stack structure was conceived about ten years ago, and it has continued to inform me about perception and the process of seeing. It’s a sort of unfolding that reveals new ideas and sharpens my focus. The work ties in perfectly with things I have been thinking about for a very long time, such as phenomenology and nonduality.

I started fabricating my structures with four sides and have since expanded this to six sides. Part of this came from the requirements of creating stability in larger works, as well as expanding my own presumptions about what the form can do in terms of the perceptual experience. I imagine in the future I might change the number of sides or alter the form, materials, colors, etc., but any iterations will conform to the original stacking concept.

How does each iteration build upon or diverge from the previous?

All iterations emanate from the source structure, a four-sided stacked tower of twenty alternating raw aluminum parts. I was experimenting with scrap material when I first conceived of the work. At the time I wasn’t quite sure of what it was, but I liked the simplicity and elegance of the form, along with the solid/void patterns created by the assembled parts and the shadows that were produced in certain lighting. I played with the shadows initially, shooting light through the structure and photographing the resulting forms. I then moved on to figure/ground works, my Diamond Series prints, which captured and flattened the patterns of solids and voids as if rotating around them. I added color and reflective surfaces to the structures, and played a lot with scale and the number of parts. I placed the works on a turntable, which acted as a stand-in for our movement through space, and started photographing them with long exposures, creating blurry and fragmented images. All of the work is related and references the original theme, one that I will continue to pursue and build upon.

Minimalism has often been considered a hyper-masculine movement, yet your approach feels more inclusive and personal. Do you see your work navigating or perhaps redefining space within Minimalist tradition?

I think all Western movements of art through to the 1990s can be considered to be hyper-masculine, as mainstream culture mainly celebrated the white male artist. There were some female minimalist artists of course (Anne Truitt, Nancy Holt, to name a few whom I admire) so I don’t think the conceptual nature or hard edge materials of minimalism is inherently masculine. I am using materials and methodologies that can certainly be associated with minimalism, and some of my concerns are quite similar. Since I am working in this specific culture and moment in time, I cannot ignore the current cultural climate we’re living in. I use minimalist materials in an effort to address the raw nature of seeing, which I think ultimately goes to the root of so many issues plaguing our society at large: how we see dictates how we act, our values, and our capacity to have empathy and understand one another.

The recent exhibition Picturing Light at the Fashion Institute of Technology, where you exhibited a large-scale installation, questions some of our basic assumptions about how we experience light and illumination. Do you see your work in the exhibition likewise challenging viewers to think about their assumptions regarding light and vision?

My goal is to challenge viewers to have an awareness of the sensation of seeing. I believe it’s not what we see as much as it is that we can see at all. Light brings forth our visual perception of the world, and I use the qualities of light in my work with reflection, color, etc., but I am not interested in light as a subject matter. I’m interested in raw seeing, as if we removed all thinking and feeling, including memories of the past and all projections into the future—what is that pure experience like? Light is one of the ways in which we understand and bring meaning to the material world, but the subject of my work is not light, it is the viewer themselves, seeing in a new and unfamiliar way.

Are there specific reactions you hope to evoke in your work?

I’d like viewers to bring themselves to the work, whomever they might be. I see the work as more universal—the majority of humans are sighted and have the ability to perceive physical matter and to navigate space. I want the viewer to actively participate with the work, not be a passive observer. Although most people rely on prescribed conventions of seeing to understand the world, I think everyone has the capacity to see anew and this can happen in a small way. I will not dictate how or what a viewer sees or thinks, I prefer to nudge them out of their preconditioned state just a little bit, enough to make them aware that they are seeing, to have an awareness of being aware.

Seth Howe
SPIN Series A, No.4 (1_3), 2022
Photograph on cotton rag
51”x41”x3”

Seth Howe
SPIN Series A, No.5 (1_3), 2022
Photograph on cotton rag
51”x41”x3”

“I am interested in raw seeing, as if we removed all thinking and feeling, including memories of the past and all projections into the future—what is that pure experience like?”

Seth Howe speaks with Kate Hoag
for LE MILE .Digital

Many of your pieces have been described as “instruments for seeing.” Can you elaborate on what you mean by this and how this intention shapes your creative process?

My three-dimensional works are meant to act as “lenses” or “seeing devices” to look through, not as coded objects to look at. I hesitate to call them sculpture because that implies an object and form that has referential meaning or signifies something else. These works exist in real space and time, no different than a human body, and I would like them to be experienced in that way. That they happen to use industrial materials and take certain geometric forms is less consequential to me, it’s their function that is important. And their function is to convey a new way of understanding the world, not as a fixed conventional reality, but as a reality that is always in flux, everchanging, and malleable.

How do you define “functional art” within the context of your practice? Do you see your works as having a function beyond their aesthetic?

My functional work is conceptually the same as my artwork, but as an architect and a “user” of space I am always drawn to making something functional, such as a table or a seat. I see these works as fine art but something that is a bit more approachable. They are physical things that people can interact with on a daily basis. In this way they are closer to being like the objects we already have around us. It’s really interesting to me to think about the boundary between something that is useful in a physical way and something that exists as an entity for sensory experience…the line can sometimes be a bit blurry.

Who or what continues to inspire you, whether in art, architecture, or other fields?

I am continually inspired by New York City, how one navigates through the streets, as if we are perceptual seeing machines, constantly taking in data and experiencing fragments of architecture, light, color, and reflections. The physical sensation of movement through space is heightened in an urban environment. This will forever be fascinating to me, the moment by moment experience of seeing as if for the first time. The city has taught me how to see, and has encouraged me to step out of my own conventional ways of seeing. I am inspired by work that brings forth some of these same attributes, whether in music, fine art, film, or architecture.

How would you describe your artistic philosophy? Is there a central idea or feeling that guides your approach across different projects?

My main conceptual thesis is about the experiential sensation of seeing, and this has been a developing theme throughout my life. We can only know the world through our senses; everything that exists comes through our sensory experience. I’ve always been drawn to the visual world as my contact point to reality. I read a lot of French existentialism when I was young which opened me up to questioning the nature of society and my existence within it. I then discovered the ideas of phenomenology in the works of Merleau-Ponty, Bergson, and others, which expanded my perspective of the different ways of examining reality. I explored the systems of language, linguistic and visual signs, social and power structures, and ultimately the ways in which reality is a type of construction itself, built piece by piece through the development of complex fabricated systems of language and knowledge. I’ve recently been exploring non-duality, which posits that everything in the world emanates from pure awareness, that all of culture, science, thinking, and feeling are subsets of consciousness itself. My work is both a tool for me to use in my exploration, as well as a device to communicate what I see with others. The point is not to create objects that end in some sort of didactic explanation, but to create things in the physical realm that provoke questions and wonder about the world we inhabit.

Looking ahead, are there any new directions or materials you’re excited to explore in your work?

After many years of investigating, thinking, and making art, I have just begun to show my work in public and I am excited about moving into that arena. There are no new directions per se, but I think the act of being in the public realm will certainly influence my work. I do like working on site-specific installations, such as the FIT show, and I am excited about fabricating larger works for exterior spaces out of stainless steel. I also use digital technologies as tools for exploration, including 3D printing for study models, and digital renderings of large works. But my output will always remain in the physical realm, a place where we all reside, in this present moment.

Seth Howe
Diamond Rotation Series A, No 4, 2021
Archival pigment print in wood shadowbox
28.75x21.75x2in (framed 28.75x21.75in)

Seth Howe
Stackwork 6
Aluminum, 12x6x6in

“We can only know the world through our senses; everything that exists comes through our sensory experience.”

Seth Howe speaks with Kate Hoag
for LE MILE .Digital